Marco Silva

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If there are complications with still trying to get Silva, then Everton should just move on and steer well clear. Getting caught up in a dispute and the possibility of having to pay a scummy sack the Manager every year club like Watford a load of money for employing a Manager that they sacked would be absolute insanity on Everton's part. It would be Everton to a tee to make another bollox of it all and have a completely unnecessary prolonged saga.They haven't got time for all that tossing about now. Need to concentrate on getting an uncomplicated and available Manager and get him installed as soon as possible.
 
barneygumble said:
West Ham hold talks with Fonseca and Emery.

We swerve them, appoint Silva.

Everton that.
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What would be ambitious about those 2 in comparison to him though? Emery has only been a real success at Sevilla, and even that was only in the EL (with Monchi). Fonseca has a very very similar record to Silva; good with smaller Portuguese sides, OK with a big Portuguese side, very good with the best team in a relatively minor league. The only real difference is that one of them is coming from abroad and so seems sexier than someone who's already been here for a year.
 
Lanolin said:
What would be ambitious about those 2 in comparison to him though? Emery has only been a real success at Sevilla, and even that was only in the EL (with Monchi). Fonseca has a very very similar record to Silva; good with smaller Portuguese sides, OK with a big Portuguese side, very good with the best team in a relatively minor league. The only real difference is that one of them is coming from abroad and so seems sexier than someone who's already been here for a year.
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Emery has won domestic and European trophies regularly. Dropped the ball at PSG in regards to the champions league but other than that...it's a higher calibre
 
He has the right amount of pragmatism for me. At Hull he placed more emphasis on defence than he did at Watford which shows he adjusts allowing for the tools at his disposal. This shows that the comparisons to Roberto Martinez are wayward, who tried getting people like Gary Caldwell playing football. At Watford he realised he had good offensive tools and definitely had them playing good footy.

He showed good composure at Hull too. He walked into an impossible situation yet never panicked, he made several loan signings in the January window like Markovic, Ranocchia, Ndiaye and Niasse to replace Livermore and Snodgrass who were sold without his permission and all of those players improved Hull immensely.

This definitely proves to me that he has the right amount of self belief to be a good manager here.
 

toffee-L said:
He has the right amount of pragmatism for me. At Hull he placed more emphasis on defence than he did at Watford which shows he adjusts allowing for the tools at his disposal. This shows that the comparisons to Roberto Martinez are wayward, who tried getting people like Gary Caldwell playing football. At Watford he realised he had good offensive tools and definitely had them playing good footy.

He showed good composure at Hull too. He walked into an impossible situation yet never panicked, he made several loan signings in the January window like Markovic, Ranocchia, Ndiaye and Niasse to replace Livermore and Snodgrass who were sold without his permission and all of those players improved Hull immensely.

This definitely proves to me that he has the right amount of self belief to be a good manager here.
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Almost everyone can be seen as expansive in comparison to the last two dullards we've been plagued with.
 
Lanolin said:
What would be ambitious about those 2 in comparison to him though? Emery has only been a real success at Sevilla, and even that was only in the EL (with Monchi). Fonseca has a very very similar record to Silva; good with smaller Portuguese sides, OK with a big Portuguese side, very good with the best team in a relatively minor league. The only real difference is that one of them is coming from abroad and so seems sexier than someone who's already been here for a year.
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Emery finished 3rd with Valencia twice in a row as well after selling all their best players including Villa and Silva.
 
Lanolin said:
What would be ambitious about those 2 in comparison to him though? Emery has only been a real success at Sevilla, and even that was only in the EL (with Monchi). Fonseca has a very very similar record to Silva; good with smaller Portuguese sides, OK with a big Portuguese side, very good with the best team in a relatively minor league. The only real difference is that one of them is coming from abroad and so seems sexier than someone who's already been here for a year.
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I do think Emery is the best of the three but I'd be happy with Silva.

We'll find out soon enough...
















(when we confirm Sam is staying :) )
 
If it is Silva, one thing it will show is that Moshiri may not be as fickle as it appears he could be.

Wanted him last year, waited for him after he was let go, so he wouldn't be coming into a car crash scenario. Hired Allardyce as an interim measure, which united the fans against him and by proxy likely behind whoever replaces him.

Young manager, less than 9 months ago was being talked about as the next big thing, will be more than happy if we hire him and especially if Brands arrives and rubber stamps the deal as a manager he wants to work with.

Fonseca on the surface seems a better/sexier option, but in reality it's based on a small handful of games and having less familiarity with him in essence. Both I think are at a similar level
 
I would be quite confident he will get the best out of what we have and improve certain players, Gylfi, Lookman, Vlasic, Walcott, Henry (if he is here next season) maybe even the likes of Sandro and Klaseen (though i dont rate the Dutch lid).

If he can make players out of Harry Maguire, Clucas, Robertson and Watford bench fodder like Docoure i will be very interested in what he might do with some of our players.
 

kenada_blue said:
Emery has won domestic and European trophies regularly. Dropped the ball at PSG in regards to the champions league but other than that...it's a higher calibre
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He's only ever won domestic trophies with PSG, which I think I'd back any of the others to do.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's not a good manager or that he's not the best of the three, simply that I don't think he's quite the superstar with guarantees of success that some people paint him as.
 
davek said:
...thing is: we know what to expect in terms of conceding goals. If it happens here it wont be a shock. No supporter can say "hold on, where's the defence?" He just needs to get us creating a lot of chances and signing attackers to convert enough to make the boldness worthwhile. I'd back him to do that.

It's not an appointment that will take us to the next level, but it will dispel the terrible atmosphere of hopelessness and boredom.
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Under Sam we had almost no shots and wongames, there quality in the team to finish the chances that are created, more attacking more goals more wins
 
Lob said:
If there are complications with still trying to get Silva, then Everton should just move on and steer well clear. Getting caught up in a dispute and the possibility of having to pay a scummy sack the Manager every year club like Watford a load of money for employing a Manager that they sacked would be absolute insanity on Everton's part. It would be Everton to a tee to make another bollox of it all and have a completely unnecessary prolonged saga.They haven't got time for all that tossing about now. Need to concentrate on getting an uncomplicated and available Manager and get him installed as soon as possible.
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..you would hope the groundwork for the move will have been well and truly sorted.
 
davek said:
...thing is: we know what to expect in terms of conceding goals. If it happens here it wont be a shock. No supporter can say "hold on, where's the defence?" He just needs to get us creating a lot of chances and signing attackers to convert enough to make the boldness worthwhile. I'd back him to do that.

It's not an appointment that will take us to the next level, but it will dispel the terrible atmosphere of hopelessness and boredom.
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We had Sam Allardyce the king of defending and Koeman a class defender and defensive coach, but we still conceded 58 goals only 10 less then Watford... not remotely worried about coinciding as I think we will score more and be more attacking and got for bid gave a possession stat over 50%
 

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