Martinez: Everton players fear Goodison Crowd

[sageyefc]

Bawk

 

[Donald Twain]

If only we sang '60 grand, 60 grand Seamus Coleman' a few more times it would have gave him the confidence to stick it in from 2 yards out. Shame.

 

[DrEFC]

Yeah agree mate, ultimately nobody can be happy with this, to be fair i think he is a bit of a fraud to be fair never are fault always a ref or a bit of luck and according to him were always phenomenal, yet were in the bottom half look at Leicester as a club we should at least be top 10 such a poor season and its his 2nd no result Wednesday he has to go

It's horrible as I genuinely like the chap, then again I remember meeting Moyes after his first season and he was a genuinely humble and engaging man.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Are we entitled to make John Stones and Tim Howard feel edgy when they wear the shirt? We're entitled to be disappointed and upset but we should also support the team. There aren't many occasions when I hear a crowd get on the backs of their side at home - can remember the Sunderland fan with the season ticket and the Newcastle protests but mostly these have been aimed at the board/manager. Come on now - we're better than this. FFS get behind the players. The reception when the players names were called before the game today was awful.

Was it bollocks. Every single one of them got a cheer

 

[davek]

Martinez can't be very good at motivating either if he's got our players cacking their pants over supporters making noises at them from a distance

Doesn't matter how well you prepare a team if the home fans decide they'd rather help the away team to the three points.

We all know it's happening, so to deny it is stupid.

 

[jal123]

Doesn't matter how well you prepare a team if the home fans decide they'd rather help the away team to the three points.

We all know it's happening, so to deny it is stupid.

You're beyond parody now.
Real Madrid fans constantly boo and whistle their players and they still win nearly every week. What a poor argument

 

[DrEFC]

Dem plotting barstewards. All 40k of them.

 

[davek]

Which in effect says you're clueless - you're just a humble fan as well.

I believe the manager should be left to manage. None of us have a thimbleful of his experience and expertise.

Undermining him and his players is counter productive.

 

[davek]

You're beyond parody now.
Real Madrid fans constantly boo and whistle their players and they still win nearly every week. What a poor argument

Real Madrid fans are watching players worth billions who need no help from anyone on a terrace.

 

[bicycleheader]

Haha, if it's not the crowd, what is it?

The pitch? Bit bobbly?

The tea lady, a bit aggressive?

The fearful word was said consistently, across all post match interviews. Here is another;

http://www.espnfc.com/barclays-prem...day?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Do the players seem fearful at home to you? They do at times to me, I think it can be very obvious at times.

If so, he can make comments acknowledging the problem and the need to work on it without meaning it as a dig at the crowd? No? Not a fair possibility?

I think it is, and as such a headline assuming that the reason for the comment is known and without doubt is very misleading.

 

[MrGrumpy]

To blame the crowd is stupid, yes there are boo and morning but what do they expect when we have a free kick 20 yards out and it ends up with Howard.
Or we all no for a FACT Howard will mess up and the other team will score.
Stones seem terrified of booting the ball up field or out of play when pressed
The over playing out from the back when it's not needed
The pointless passing between the 2 CB
Howard throws the ball to marked men.
Barkley doesn't pass quick enough then gets tackled
Del Boy put the best 3 crosses in ever and no one bothers moving near it.
The pointless corner after corner
The stupid passes that lose the ball.
How about the fact they let a team who can't score and didn't have a striker on the pitch control the 1st half and don't press them.
How about the inability to mark players and put pressed on them when there 20 yards from goal.

Shall I go on?

 

[MikeH72]

Doesn't matter how well you prepare a team if the home fans decide they'd rather help the away team to the three points.

We all know it's happening, so to deny it is stupid.

I really don't think the fans have decided that Dave

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Doesn't matter how well you prepare a team if the home fans decide they'd rather help the away team to the three points.

We all know it's happening, so to deny it is stupid.

Jesus H Navas, you've developed some sort of paranoid siege mentality of hitler-like proportions. Hitler blamed all around him near the end. He said the german people didn't deserve to survive because they never fully backed him.

You've lost it. I expect you'll be chewing the furniture soon....

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Do the players seem fearful at home to you? They do at times to me, I think it can be very obvious at times.

If so, he can make comments acknowledging the problem and the need to work on it without meaning it as a dig at the crowd? No? Not a fair possibility?

I think it is, and as such a headline assuming that the reason for the comment is known and without doubt is very misleading.

You never answered my question.

If it's not the crowd then what are the players afraid of when playing at Goodison?

When Martinez refers to a negative atmosphere, what is he talking about if not the crowd? Spirits of former players perhaps?

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

I believe the manager should be left to manage. None of us have a thimbleful of his experience and expertise.

Undermining him and his players is counter productive.

Then what's the point of the forum, if he & his players are immune from any scrutiny or criticism?