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Martinez: Everton players fear Goodison Crowd

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@GrandOldTeam: I think Martinez is just passing on a message from Tim Howard (in particular). Its a classic case of 'don't shoot the messenger' yet people are.

I personally think: Martinez is being TOO NICE with the players.

He really needs to put the fear of God into one or two under-performing half interested players. Who frankly deserve dropping.

That Stones -> Howard back pass was an absolute disgrace and neither of them have any excuse for it.

Its time for tea-cups to fly in the dressing room as the manager is getting flack for the players poor performance.

One or too need to shape up or ship out in my view.

Its a view I know @davek shares and one I think @The Esk would also agree with.

Give them hell Roberto. Don't be Mr Nice Guy all the time. Some of these wasters don't deserve it the way they are behaving. Lets stop the excuses. The players not performing on the pitch are to blame.

Not defending is inexcusable.

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He's not a cup thrower though. He doesn't have to be either. Just do what he has to to get points on the board: sack Howard off and go with Robles.

All the whinging and moaning you're seeing and hearing now from the usual suspects and, tbf, those not the usual suspects, can be stopped in its tracks by doing that one simple thing.

Get it sorted out and lets crack on.
 
He's not a cup thrower though. He doesn't have to be either. Just do what he has to to get points on the board: sack Howard off and go with Robles.

All the whinging and moaning you're seeing and hearing now from the usual suspects and, tbf, those not the usual suspects, can be stopped in its tracks by doing that one simple thing.

Get it sorted out and lets crack on.

But that won't happen, he's not made any indication that he will
 

He's not a cup thrower though. He doesn't have to be either. Just do what he has to to get points on the board: sack Howard off and go with Robles.

All the whinging and moaning you're seeing and hearing now from the usual suspects and, tbf, those not the usual suspects, can be stopped in its tracks by doing that one simple thing.

Get it sorted out and lets crack on.
But you know he WON'T drop Mr flappy will he ??? Simplistic mate..
 
He's not a cup thrower though. He doesn't have to be either. Just do what he has to to get points on the board: sack Howard off and go with Robles.

All the whinging and moaning you're seeing and hearing now from the usual suspects and, tbf, those not the usual suspects, can be stopped in its tracks by doing that one simple thing.

Get it sorted out and lets crack on.

Thats the point though Dave.

Martinez needs to tell Howard. His performances are unacceptable that back pass and how he dealt with it was catastrophic on Sunday.

Tell him he's dropped. Let the tea cups fly as one or two look to be going through the motions but not putting 100% in. That for the manager should be unacceptable.

Its one reason the crowd are on the backs of the players.
 
I know but honestly we never got within 10 yards of them for the first whatever.. The crowd reacted and it was like Besic decided enough was enough and went for it. Now that's a player who would be inspired by the groans and do his utmost to change the attitude of the crowd. The Goodison crowd will always appreciate effort in my opinion even if the end product is not always there. Anyway come into the brick before the next game and I'll buy you a bevy and whinge at you. Not been warming up properly lately ;)

A kind offer, but as a car driving tunnel rat with a young un, I dont have time to pop into the boozers pre game these days.
 
Martinez has played a blinder here. Diverted all attention away from him in the media, now we get national broadcasters tweeting this....
 

Between this and his mad claims about being Conan the Conqueror away from home - filling his boots with an almighty three victories - I think his arse is going.

He's going to have to put some work into his next PowerPoint job application. I can't think of too many other mugs that will be ready to buy into his Lord of the Flies approach to management.
 
Moyes had squads full of yard dogs, at times by choice. But martinez has far too good a team to be needing excuses after dismal losses to fodder like swansea. We are in terminal decline under him. I don't care about percentages. I care about consecutive bottom half finishes, and what was now looking back, a rather pathetic subsiding at the end of the first season.

Unbelievable. The stuff of divas.
 

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