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Martinez new Belgium head coach

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RFUS said:
What's the obsession with points? Points are not a good barometer as the league shifts every season. 3 teams leave and 3 new ones join. Countless players are bought and sold. Managers come and go. There are seasons when 61 points gets you 4th and seasons where it gets you 8th. Seasons where 70 odd wins the title and others where it doesn't even let you crack the top 4.

All that matters is league position. Every team plays every other team twice, and the table doesn't lie. If you're 4th you're the 4th best, whether it's 61 points or 80.

If Koeman can get top 7 or 8 it's a step forward. Whether that's 70 points or 50 I'm not bothered.
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If you're not bothered that we could get 50 points in a season then that severely limits your ambition. That wont get us where we want to go will it?

Points matter. The ability to consistently get into the 70 odd point bracket will ensure that CL qualification looks after itself. It's such a prosaic point that it almost need not be highlighted.
 
davek said:
...I'd laugh along with you mate, however we haven't managed to win it for over 20 years.

Btw, Harry Redknapp has coached a team to the CL KO stages. When Koeman does the same maybe the laughter will be warranted.
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To be fair mate, Koeman has won titles in 3 different leagues. I had this argument the other night with a R's who tried telling me he was mediocre. I pointed out he has won 4 times the number of managerial honours Klopp has. No 8th place trophy though or relegation on his CV like Fuhrer Klopp has though. Definitely mediocre!
 

catcherintherye said:
To be fair mate, Koeman has won titles in 3 different leagues. I had this argument the other night with a R's who tried telling me he was mediocre. I pointed out he has won 4 times the number of managerial honours Klopp has. No 8th place trophy though or relegation on his CV like Fuhrer Klopp has though. Definitely mediocre!
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???

Just the Dutch title, surely?
 
davek said:
If you're not bothered that we could get 50 points in a season then that severely limits your ambition. That wont get us where we want to go will it?

Points matter. The ability to consistently get into the 70 odd point bracket will ensure that CL qualification looks after itself. It's such a prosaic point that it almost need not be highlighted.
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You're obviously not bothered either seeing as we got under that total twice in a row with your hero at the helm
 

Martinez had good points. I really think he had a good idea about how to crack the top 4 without large funding. He absolutely improved our youth development (or maybe Rhino did, but Martinez certainly didn't get in the way of that), and clearly had a vision for growing a team from young, raw players.

It's a good idea.

Too bad it would require a manager with an ounce of tactical awareness.

Poor Belgium. Stuck with the bad bits.
 

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