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Martinez new Belgium head coach

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Depends on your perspective - Walker took a mediocre side and made them terrible, Martinez took a strong side and made them bad. Both nadirs in the club's history. The worst Everton teams I've ever personally seen have been under HKIII and Smith, but the raw material they were working with was just really weak, plus the club was basically falling to pieces off the pitch at that time. So you've got to take a balanced view of these things.

Walker calling it a day after us is a mystery - getting a team like Norwich to third in the league is not something you can bluff your way into, there has to be at least some managerial quality there. The way he failed with us though was like a man getting rumbled, like imposter syndrome except for real. It wasn't a failure of his system, or he had a bust up with senior pros, he was just a man way out of his depth and he basically owned up to that by calling it a day. El Gaffer takes a different approach.

That side won the cup the next season! It couldn't have been that bad. Jibbed off future England international Andy Hinchcliffe, played Barry Horne at right back bought Samways and Amokachi and didn't know what to do with them. Bought David bloody Burrows. Walker was backed he was just rubbish.

The difference between the haves and have nots was not as big back then.
 
  • "Cleverly is an intelligent modern-day footballer. His movement and understanding of space is really good for a young player"

  • "He is an exceptional young player in the sense of his ability to play in different positions. He is such a mobile boy who can play wide on either side and in central midfield. Also, which he has showed at Watford last year, he is a goalscorer. Tom has got outstanding qualities as far as goalscoring is concerned"

  • "Tom is one of the brightest prospects in the English game. For a young boy, he has a good footballing brain which, when coupled with his energy and ability, makes for a player with a fine future ahead of him."

Alex Ferguson - most successful manager in the game.

:coffee:

Who you labelled a washed up alcoholic on here once a few years ago.

Which is it? Make your mind up FFS :)
 

Aiden Mcgeady called him the mind ninja he can talk his way in or out of any situation he does not need to be good at his job just convincing
 
Can you imagine Barca scoring 6 goals per game but conceding 8 and this being described as phenomenal.

He will probably win everything in his first season then get them relegated the next, but I guess that’s phenomenal lollollol
 

  • "Cleverly is an intelligent modern-day footballer. His movement and understanding of space is really good for a young player"

  • "He is an exceptional young player in the sense of his ability to play in different positions. He is such a mobile boy who can play wide on either side and in central midfield. Also, which he has showed at Watford last year, he is a goalscorer. Tom has got outstanding qualities as far as goalscoring is concerned"

  • "Tom is one of the brightest prospects in the English game. For a young boy, he has a good footballing brain which, when coupled with his energy and ability, makes for a player with a fine future ahead of him."

Alex Ferguson - most successful manager in the game.

:coffee:
Yeah he said that 5 years before Martinez had hold of him and he'd been hawked around any club that would have him by Utd since Fergie said that, when it was clear he was not up to anything but bang average.

"he is one of the most sensational you are going to see in Premier League history". 2016 - Bobby "Clown Shoes" Martinez.
 
In three seasons:

Reopened the School of Science playing our most creative football since the mid-80s
Took us to two cup SFs
Smashed Everton's PL season points total (never to be challenged for years to come)

...did that with his inherited Moyes' Dads Army and spending a pittance...then leaving handing the club a net profit on players bought.


If Silva does that after three seasons it'll be considered a qualified success.


Swansea - a success
Wigan - a success
Everton - a success
Belgium - a success

Hmmm, I wonder why Barcelona might want him?
No, I dont take it for granted. Tghe issue is that (outside the usual suspects on this thread) his name rests easily in any short-list for a top job.

Yeah but, Dave, Big Ron's in that list too!

However, I hope he gets the job because I'll be right down the bookies to put my hard earned 50p on Real for La Liga next season - and wouldn't be surprised to see a heavily disguised @davek in front of me in the queue.
 
All hail to the Messiah.

On Niasse :

2/2/16 "Physically he can cope with the physicality of the Premier League. He doesn't need to adapt".

1/4/16 "the adaption period has been a bit longer than expected".
 
Who you labelled a washed up alcoholic on here once a few years ago.

Which is it? Make your mind up FFS :)
It's Dave, don't trust him to have a steady opinion on anything other than Martinez being god and Phil Jagielka being the Antichrist. lol
Oh come on there is no argument to be had there! Walker is miles worse than anybody we have had. It's not even close.

It is weird how he just seemed to give up after coming here though, Think he had half a season back and Norwich and then he was just finished.
It's the done thing in Everton circles to say every crap manager we have is as bad as Walker, if not worse. Martinez, Koeman and even Silva have been compared to him. Martinez at least gave us one decent season, one OK one and a good cup run in his crap season.
 

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