Martinez new Belgium head coach

[Mickey]

He's done exactly the same with Belgium as he did with Everton. Lashed players on the field with little to no idea what they were supposed to do bar "be phenomenal". Difference is Everton didn't have De Bruyne and Hazard.

 

[bring the ghost on]

21 wins from 38 games suggests you're wrong.

My argument is that he can't retain order in the dressing room, he is tactically too stubborn and the players dissent is apparent (even in a winning Belgian squad he's had trouble).

I'm not saying he doesn't have some good qualities - we saw at Everton that the guy can put a good cup run together. But, if a big club does poach him, they will live to regret it if they want any longevity and stability from him.

 

[davek]

My argument is that he can't retain order in the dressing room, he is tactically too stubborn and the players dissent is apparent (even in a winning Belgian squad he's had trouble).

I'm not saying he doesn't have some good qualities - we saw at Everton that the guy can put a good cup run together. But, if a big club does poach him, they will live to regret it if they want any longevity and stability from him.

He can put a good season together...as we know...and as a top Euro club will find out soon.

 

[DualityNSNO]

My argument is that he can't retain order in the dressing room, he is tactically too stubborn and the players dissent is apparent (even in a winning Belgian squad he's had trouble).

I'm not saying he doesn't have some good qualities - we saw at Everton that the guy can put a good cup run together. But, if a big club does poach him, they will live to regret it if they want any longevity and stability from him.

Why are you doing this to yourself?

Dave is clearly mentally damaged (when it comes to Martinez).

 

[Nobby Nobbs]

It could be said Southgate has done as good a job (if not better) as Martinez at this World Cup will a far inferior squad.

 

[ilikecheese]

It could be said Southgate has done as good a job (if not better) as Martinez at this World Cup will a far inferior squad.

Martinez beat Southgate...both played B teams.

 

[DanEFC92]

A sorry state of affairs.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

21 wins from 38 games suggests you're wrong.

Anyway, we'll soon find out how crap he is or not as a league manager when a top Euro club poaches him after this WC.

Martinez managing a Euro power house....Moyes managing in League One, Koeman not managing to find his flip flop order.

The natural order has been re-established.

Well after that 72 point season, we finished 11th on 47 points, and then when he was fired, we were on 44 points.So something went badly wrong there.Of course the players, throwing him under the wheels of the bus, didn't help either.

 

[USABlue]

It could be said Southgate has done as good a job (if not better) as Martinez at this World Cup will a far inferior squad.

While facing inferior opposition lol Japan/Brazil are vastly superior to James-less Colombia/Sweden

 

[ilikecheese]

While facing inferior opposition lol Japan/Brazil are vastly superior to James-less Colombia/Sweden

Yeah but Japan isn't ranked very high according to FIFA rankings.

 

[Khalekan]

It could be said Southgate has done as good a job (if not better) as Martinez at this World Cup will a far inferior squad.

You wha?

England, like Belgium, qualified from probably the easiest group in the competion.

Scotland would have qualified from it

Japan and Brazil was a more difficult path to the semis than Colombia and Sweden.

Plus Belgium beat England (and Roberto played a weakened team as well).

There is no way Southgate has done as “good a job” as Bobby thus far.....and for certain he has not done a “better” one

 

[Cork Evertonian]

If Belgium can beat France, then actually winning the world cup is on.I think they would go into the final as favourites.I think Belgium and England, would be the neutrals dream final.But for personal reasons (over earlier events) i'd like to see them face Croatia.I think Bobby would be a popular man in Moscow (and Brussels as well for that matter!) if Croatia are put to the sword.But look they have to deal with France first, and this will be their toughest game yet imo.But i will be rooting for Belgium here, and hopefully i'll be rooting for them in the final, as well.Best of luck to them.

 

[USABlue]

Yeah but Japan isn't ranked very high according to FIFA rankings.

only thing more irrelavent than FIFA rankings is the FIFA Ethics Committee

 

[USABlue]

You wha?

England, like Belgium, qualified from probably the easiest group in the competion.

Scotland would have qualified from it

Japan and Brazil was a more difficult path to the semis than Colombia and Sweden.

Plus Belgium beat England (and Roberto played a weakened team as well).

There is no way Southgate has done as “good a job” as Bobby thus far.....and for certain he has not done a “better” one

mate half the England fans are still doing mental gymnastics to view England as some underdog team achieving this against all odds despite being favorites in every game

 

[ilikecheese]

mate half the England fans are still doing mental gymnastics to view England as some underdog team achieving this against all odds despite being favorites in every game

It so different to how we'd handle it isn't it?

Not saying it's right or wrong....but definitely different.