Mason Greenwood

[Tin-Tin]

Greenwood is a scumbag and if he was some average youth player he would be binned by now. Only sticking by him as he's a good player and worth ££

 

[Nymzee]

Jeezus wept.

Goto Line 1

You didn't say yes or no to my question.

 

[tsubaki]

Isn’t it possible though to be extremely sympathic to the fact the victim does not want legal proceedings to take place and to accept that it her choice to continue having a relationship with him (however unwise and likely to end in disaster you think it is) but simultaneously still not want him to be employed by your club and make comments accordingly?

The thing is though, is it really possible to be sympathetic to the victim whilst also wanting her case to be used to make an example out of him?

Either people accept her wishes (which as you say certainly appear to be unwise), or they put their own opinions ahead of hers and use her case as a soapbox for this particular issue.

 

[chrismpw]

You didn't say yes or no to my question.

You've used up my patience credits troll. The answer is there if you're bothered enough to look.

 

[Nymzee]

You've used up my patience credits troll. The answer is there if you're bothered enough to look.

But you didn't actually answer? That's why I'm asking. It's a straight yes/no to my simple question.

 

[zukai12_]

There's audio and visual evidence that this guy is a real PoS

If he ends up playing again i suppose we just have to hope Tarkowski snaps his leg

 

[Prevenger17]

This is getting tedious and frankly I'm aghast at how many people on here have misunderstood, half read the thread, or are simply trolling. I suspect the latter because, frankly, Toffees can't be that thick can they?

Is this the same guy who assumed the woman was lying before reading the transcript?

 

[tsubaki]

Issue is, can anything ever change this? It's a case of sometimes people need protecting from themselves but then who gives us the right to judge that in the first place.

It is, and there is no easy answer here except to say that any intervention has to be with the victim's best interests at heart.

People must not be able to override what they want just so they can win an argument / tick a box to say that they've done something. Getting him sacked helps that girl in no way that I can fathom, at least without some kind of compensation.

 

[Nymzee]

It is, and there is no easy answer here except to say that any intervention has to be with the victim's best interests at heart.

People must not be able to override what they want just so they can win an argument / tick a box to say that they've done something. Getting him sacked helps that girl in no way that I can fathom, at least without some kind of compensation.

But regarding the bold, who is the authority here? That's the hardest part.

Sacking him hopefully deters others, well famous others, and if she wasn't with him it would be fine but seems she is content with their lifestyle and family. Feel more for their child tbh growing up and finding out about all this.

 

[LinekersLegs]

The thing is though, is it really possible to be sympathetic to the victim whilst also wanting her case to be used to make an example out of him?

Either people accept her wishes (which as you say certainly appear to be unwise), or they put their own opinions ahead of hers and use her case as a soapbox for this particular issue.

From my point of view I see it as a 3 issues.

I can fully understand her not wanting to go to trial for myriad reasons. Any court case is emotionally fraught and these types of cases particularly so, especially as there is a child from the relationship.

I don’t understand her wanting to continue a relationship with him and think it extremely unwise but accept it is her choice.

Both the above issues primarily affect her and her child and so deferenece to her wishes seems appropriate.

But as for whether he is employed by Manchester United - has she made any public comments re that?

It is an issue that doesn’t just affect her, it is far wider. I can fully understand for instance some of the female members of the club not wanting to be in contact with him due to concerns about their own physical safety and given how many women have themselves been assaulted it could well create emotional distress. Should their wishes to not be in his presence be trumped by the victim’s wanting him to keep his job?

 

[The binman chronicles]

Should be made an example of to try and stop the next load of wannabe gangsters that their careers will be decimated by acting the big I am just because they have money.

I'm thinking the last scene of braveheart played out over a fortnight should just about cover it.

 

[Tin-Tin]

But regarding the bold, who is the authority here? That's the hardest part.

Sacking him hopefully deters others, well famous others, and if she wasn't with him it would be fine but seems she is content with their lifestyle and family. Feel more for their child tbh growing up and finding out about all this.

They know if the sack him some other half decent team wont hesitate to sign him. Now if clubs stood together and basically finished his career then yes its a good deterrance. They dont want to risk losing an expensive asset and probably think people will forget in a few months

As for her liking his lifestyle, I think thats easy for us to say. There are hundreds of thousands of women that will do exactly the same thing with men who have no money or status. Its an awful situation all round, but he's a scumbag. Lets hope his expensive counselling sessions at least stop him abusing her and/or the child.

 

[Goat]

They know if the sack him some other half decent team wont hesitate to sign him. Now if clubs stood together and basically finished his career then yes its a good deterrance. They dont want to risk losing an expensive asset and probably think people will forget in a few months

As for her liking his lifestyle, I think thats easy for us to say. There are hundreds of thousands of women that will do exactly the same thing with men who have no money or status. Its an awful situation all round, but he's a scumbag. Lets hope his expensive counselling sessions at least stop him abusing her and/or the child.

They have no legal basis to sack him.

For a club like United, it should be an easy decision, sell or loan him till his contract expires.

 

[Nymzee]

They know if the sack him some other half decent team wont hesitate to sign him. Now if clubs stood together and basically finished his career then yes its a good deterrance. They dont want to risk losing an expensive asset and probably think people will forget in a few months

As for her liking his lifestyle, I think thats easy for us to say. There are hundreds of thousands of women that will do exactly the same thing with men who have no money or status. Its an awful situation all round, but he's a scumbag. Lets hope his expensive counselling sessions at least stop him abusing her and/or the child.

Nah, counselling won’t fix him. He’s just been caught on audio transcript and still can play for United. He will do this forever as far as I’m concerned.

 

[Nightman]

No!

This is getting tedious and frankly I'm aghast at how many people on here have misunderstood, half read the thread, or are simply trolling. I suspect the latter because, frankly, Toffees can't be that thick can they?

How many times have I made the point - the evidence is damning ... IF first the evidence is bound to be true under court examination.

That's why we have courts and professionals, ffs and not trial by mob.

It was easier teaching year 7s how to balance equations than this.

Your points are extremely muddled and where you've ended up in this thread is a mile away from your initial postings.
It's not the fault of us not understanding you - it's that you communicate very poorly.