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Merseyside monachrists

Are you for or against the Monarchy

  • For

    Votes: 37 19.7%

  • Against

    Votes: 109 58.0%

  • Cheese on toast

    Votes: 42 22.3%
  • Total voters
    188
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4737carlin said:
Charles is a knob, use to go fox hunting, and shooting with his eldest son, scum bag
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Used to live in the city, now I live in the countryside. Fox hunting is indefensible but I don’t see it near me any more, but shooting where food is later eaten is just a countryside pastime. Hard to criticise if hunt ends up on the table.
 
Micky_T said:
I'm against the monarchy having anything to do with ruling the country or having any kind of political or legal powers but I'm OK with them being a tourist attraction that bring money in to our economy.

In the 21st century with a fully functioning government (yes, I know they're all useless idiots but in theory, they should be competent enough to run the country. We're just going through a bad spell at the moment) there should be no need for a monarchy and a government. The Queen pretty much did as she's told and backed the government and their decisions. She doesn't really add any value as a head of state. But as a tourist attraction the monarchy are huge. London in particular thrives on tourism and if we were to take all that away, the economy would suffer.

I'm hoping that Charles will start to bring the Royal family a little bit closer to the real world. Obviously the gap between the normal population and the ridiculously wealthy, over privileged royals is always going to be huge but they can still work towards being more relatable. Charles is only likely to have up to 20 years on the throne before handing over to William who again could be even more progressive and make more changes. The changes are always going to be slow and probably a good 50 years behind where they should be but unless they modernise the calls for the abolition of the monarchy will grow stronger each time a monarch dies.
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The monarch isn’t a tourist attraction that would effect london. In fact if they were to no longer be head of state, but exist as the former royal family - I’m pretty sure people would still visit the palace.
I’m also sure that the royal family would be recieved as guests throughout the world out other countries expenses.

While they exist:
* no man is born equal
* meritocracy doesn’t exist
* if you are born in to wealthiest family you are exempt from inheritance tax while the rest of the population pay 40%

Let the Family exist, but let’s not have them in a formal role. They can use their family history and their property as a means live off but pay taxes like the rest of us.
We can get a proper national anthem that celebrates the people not royal family.
Those that like the monarchy can still turn out for funerals and weddings if they wish.
 
Moomin said:
Time to abolish in my eyes.

Unless they make Harry and Meghan the king and queen to annoy the Mail and Express readers.
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Imagine if Meghan went full on and and removed all the pageantry crap and gave every castle a full on Hollywood makeover!

Charro said:
I didn’t think there’s any sort of anti monarchy movement in the city when you actually go and see real life.

Loads of people love them. Most of my family do.

People were crying in work when the news broke.

It’s just attention seekers on twitter all patting themselves on the back. People with twitter handles like ‘scouse republic’ and all that nonsense.

I’m not a fan of them myself but I cringe at all the performative nonsense from people in this city.
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No way did you witness anyone crying in work at the peaceful death of a 96 Yr old
 
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Charlie Sweet said:
Imagine if Meghan went full on and and removed all the pageantry crap and gave every castle a full on Hollywood makeover!



No way did you witness anyone crying in work at the peaceful death of a 96 Yr old
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Yep. Not even her death, it was the announcement that she was sick and the realisation throughout the day at what was happening.

People felt attached to her. It can’t be denied.
 

ClausThomsen said:
Not necessarily. We could have a Lord Protector.

Personally I'd prefer a *genuinely benevolent* Dictator over any PM or Monarch.
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Worked out well the last time didn't it? I live in Warrington, a town that has a strange affection for Oliver Cromwell reportedly because he allegedly spent one night in the town during the Civil War.

All Dictators start off as genuinely benevolent, but most of them don't stay like that once they get used to the trappings of power. At least with our monarchy we know that in reality they are only symbolic with no power over us. If it aint bust don't fix it.
 
twoblue said:
The monarch isn’t a tourist attraction that would effect london. In fact if they were to no longer be head of state, but exist as the former royal family - I’m pretty sure people would still visit the palace.
I’m also sure that the royal family would be recieved as guests throughout the world out other countries expenses.

While they exist:
* no man is born equal
* meritocracy doesn’t exist
* if you are born in to wealthiest family you are exempt from inheritance tax while the rest of the population pay 40%

Let the Family exist, but let’s not have them in a formal role. They can use their family history and their property as a means live off but pay taxes like the rest of us.
We can get a proper national anthem that celebrates the people not royal family.
Those that like the monarchy can still turn out for funerals and weddings if they wish.
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It must be nice to be rich enough to be liable for inheritance tax.
 

Some of the Royal family are alright and some are scum.

They didn't choose to be born into the family, it is what you do with that circumstance, that is the important thing to look at. There are plenty of good stories about how the Queen dealt with this, along with Charles, William & Harry. They have all come out of the birthright with positives, there will always be negatives as they are humans and have to follow tradition, etc. but there are definitely a vast amount of stories where they are personable and do good things.

Definitely enough to not be a dick about a seemingly nice old lady passing away.
 
davek said:
WTF have they got to do with it? They dont have the monopoly on anti-monarchism. You think that only if you overdose on twitter. these past two days
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Because being anti monarchy is a big part of the How To Be a Kopite check book, dont forget there not a sincere fan base, they follow the rules and play to the gallery. It's a bigger thing with them then any other fans base, that's how sad they are.
How many kopites can actually tell you why they are anti monarchy? Very few, same with the anti Tory thing.
 

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