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Interesting take on the Rubiales "kiss" from Mrs J.
She has no interest whatsoever in football but asked what all the fuss was about in Spain with the football president.
So I explained the background and showed her the footage.
"Well I can't see anything wrong with that , he's just excited that they won ".
Was her reply.
Me , I think it's shocking that a man can presume to kiss a woman on the lips without her permission/ encouragement. He wouldn't do that to a man in any circumstances I would suggest.
Be interested to know what the footballing women of our lovely thread think.
 
Nothing to do with ONJs arse then T?😀
Well it was mighty fine to be fair, then she started smoking which as you know I hate lol I have just always loved music. As you know I listen to a lot of different genres and I guess that translated to musicals as well.

Shout out to Seven Brides for Seven Brothers and Paint Your Wagon as well, I was in the school play one year which was Paint Your Wagon. Thankfully not a singing part as my voice is like nails on a chalkboard lol

Well I digressed a little there, we were talking about bottoms lol :blush:
 
Interesting take on the Rubiales "kiss" from Mrs J.
She has no interest whatsoever in football but asked what all the fuss was about in Spain with the football president.
So I explained the background and showed her the footage.
"Well I can't see anything wrong with that , he's just excited that they won ".
Was her reply.
Me , I think it's shocking that a man can presume to kiss a woman on the lips without her permission/ encouragement. He wouldn't do that to a man in any circumstances I would suggest.
Be interested to know what the footballing women of our lovely thread think.
I have to agree with Mrs J, he shouldn't have done it but heat of the moment, just won the World Cup. Men do, do it too each other kiss foreheads and slap arses but nobody cares. I think it's going a step too far just cancelling him.

I never seen other footage that he apparently did a MJ and grabbed his crotch, which is a bit creepy . I just think he got a bit over excited, not like she was in any danger of it going any further. I think an apology should have sufficed but instead it's gone all political.
 

Well it was mighty fine to be fair, then she started smoking which as you know I hate lol I have just always loved music. As you know I listen to a lot of different genres and I guess that translated to musicals as well.

Shout out to Seven Brides for Seven Brothers and Paint Your Wagon as well, I was in the school play one year which was Paint Your Wagon. Thankfully not a singing part as my voice is like nails on a chalkboard lol

Well I digressed a little there, we were talking about bottoms lol :blush:
I’ll just point you in the direction of Lee Marvin. lol
 
Interesting take on the Rubiales "kiss" from Mrs J.
She has no interest whatsoever in football but asked what all the fuss was about in Spain with the football president.
So I explained the background and showed her the footage.
"Well I can't see anything wrong with that , he's just excited that they won ".
Was her reply.
Me , I think it's shocking that a man can presume to kiss a woman on the lips without her permission/ encouragement. He wouldn't do that to a man in any circumstances I would suggest.
Be interested to know what the footballing women of our lovely thread think.
His presumption that he could kiss her on the lips was very wrong and the fact that he was excited at winning the trophy is no excuse. In my opinion It is never acceptable to kiss a woman without her permission/ encouragement. I feel quite strongly about this issue. There was a man who lived nearby who was a casual acquaintance, I had known him for a few years mainly as a customer at the Post Office where I worked. I met him one day in our local corner shop and got chatting to him. I had my grandson in the pushchair who after a while started to get bored. I made my excuses to leave and as I did so, the man said it had been nice chatting and put his arms round me and kissed me. I shouted “What the hell do you think you’re doing?“ To which he replied “Oh, it’s like that is it?” ”Yes it bl***dy well is, get off me”. For a long time afterwards I blamed myself thinking that I must have encouraged him in some way although for the life of me I couldn’t think how, as I saw it I had merely been polite. Sometime later as I was chatting to a neighbour he went by in his car and glared at us. I said I couldn’t stand him and she said neither could she as every time she saw him he kissed her and she’d never had the courage to tell him to stop. Sorry for the long winded reply but speaking from my own experience- No it is never acceptable.
 
His presumption that he could kiss her on the lips was very wrong and the fact that he was excited at winning the trophy is no excuse. In my opinion It is never acceptable to kiss a woman without her permission/ encouragement. I feel quite strongly about this issue. There was a man who lived nearby who was a casual acquaintance, I had known him for a few years mainly as a customer at the Post Office where I worked. I met him one day in our local corner shop and got chatting to him. I had my grandson in the pushchair who after a while started to get bored. I made my excuses to leave and as I did so, the man said it had been nice chatting and put his arms round me and kissed me. I shouted “What the hell do you think you’re doing?“ To which he replied “Oh, it’s like that is it?” ”Yes it bl***dy well is, get off me”. For a long time afterwards I blamed myself thinking that I must have encouraged him in some way although for the life of me I couldn’t think how, as I saw it I had merely been polite. Sometime later as I was chatting to a neighbour he went by in his car and glared at us. I said I couldn’t stand him and she said neither could she as every time she saw him he kissed her and she’d never had the courage to tell him to stop. Sorry for the long winded reply but speaking from my own experience- No it is never acceptable.
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His presumption that he could kiss her on the lips was very wrong and the fact that he was excited at winning the trophy is no excuse. In my opinion It is never acceptable to kiss a woman without her permission/ encouragement. I feel quite strongly about this issue. There was a man who lived nearby who was a casual acquaintance, I had known him for a few years mainly as a customer at the Post Office where I worked. I met him one day in our local corner shop and got chatting to him. I had my grandson in the pushchair who after a while started to get bored. I made my excuses to leave and as I did so, the man said it had been nice chatting and put his arms round me and kissed me. I shouted “What the hell do you think you’re doing?“ To which he replied “Oh, it’s like that is it?” ”Yes it bl***dy well is, get off me”. For a long time afterwards I blamed myself thinking that I must have encouraged him in some way although for the life of me I couldn’t think how, as I saw it I had merely been polite. Sometime later as I was chatting to a neighbour he went by in his car and glared at us. I said I couldn’t stand him and she said neither could she as every time she saw him he kissed her and she’d never had the courage to tell him to stop. Sorry for the long winded reply but speaking from my own experience- No it is never acceptable.
Fair enough G, obviously I don't have it from a womans perspective, I shall recant my statement.
 
His presumption that he could kiss her on the lips was very wrong and the fact that he was excited at winning the trophy is no excuse. In my opinion It is never acceptable to kiss a woman without her permission/ encouragement. I feel quite strongly about this issue. There was a man who lived nearby who was a casual acquaintance, I had known him for a few years mainly as a customer at the Post Office where I worked. I met him one day in our local corner shop and got chatting to him. I had my grandson in the pushchair who after a while started to get bored. I made my excuses to leave and as I did so, the man said it had been nice chatting and put his arms round me and kissed me. I shouted “What the hell do you think you’re doing?“ To which he replied “Oh, it’s like that is it?” ”Yes it bl***dy well is, get off me”. For a long time afterwards I blamed myself thinking that I must have encouraged him in some way although for the life of me I couldn’t think how, as I saw it I had merely been polite. Sometime later as I was chatting to a neighbour he went by in his car and glared at us. I said I couldn’t stand him and she said neither could she as every time she saw him he kissed her and she’d never had the courage to tell him to stop. Sorry for the long winded reply but speaking from my own experience- No it is never acceptable.
I had a great friend who was a real gent but he always kissed woman right on the lips and it made me cringe ,there was never any more to it ,no embrace or anything but still I didn't like it when he did it and it obviously wasn't even me .
 

All went well at the docs until he asked me to remember three words after a few minutes I had forgotten one of them but he knows me well and on repeating them every few minutes to him I think it will be fine . We then went picking wild mushrooms at our old house ,which provided enough for a while for the gourmets the black one is Trompe l'oeil or for us mere mortals poor man's truffle :-1693321557095.webp
 
Interesting take on the Rubiales "kiss" from Mrs J.
She has no interest whatsoever in football but asked what all the fuss was about in Spain with the football president.
So I explained the background and showed her the footage.
"Well I can't see anything wrong with that , he's just excited that they won ".
Was her reply.
Me , I think it's shocking that a man can presume to kiss a woman on the lips without her permission/ encouragement. He wouldn't do that to a man in any circumstances I would suggest.
Be interested to know what the footballing women of our lovely thread think.
Much like @Gwladysover I think it was totally unacceptable. A hug, high fives, an arm around the shoulder and a squeeze would all be acceptable in the excitement of the moment. Kissing, especially on the lips - no. It's presumptive and unwanted. You also have to think about the power differential. He's head of their FA, she's a player. What was she supposed to do. He's imposing himself on her. He should know better.
I doubt there's a woman alive over the age of 40 who hasn't experienced unwanted sexual attention from a man. It isn't nice. In my first jobI worked in Warrington hospital microbiology dept. I was 19, my favourite perfume was Opium. Proper 1980s Opium- could knock out a donkey at 30 yards😃. we used to have to wash our hands a lot. When I was washing my hands at the sink, one of our senior technicians , who was married, in his 40s, had 5 kids, would come behind me, put his hands around my waist, press up against me and nuzzle my neck saying 'you're wearing that perfume again'. He did this repeatedly. And I wasn't the only one. So it's never acceptable in my book.
 
Much like @Gwladysover I think it was totally unacceptable. A hug, high fives, an arm around the shoulder and a squeeze would all be acceptable in the excitement of the moment. Kissing, especially on the lips - no. It's presumptive and unwanted. You also have to think about the power differential. He's head of their FA, she's a player. What was she supposed to do. He's imposing himself on her. He should know better.
I doubt there's a woman alive over the age of 40 who hasn't experienced unwanted sexual attention from a man. It isn't nice. In my first jobI worked in Warrington hospital microbiology dept. I was 19, my favourite perfume was Opium. Proper 1980s Opium- could knock out a donkey at 30 yards😃. we used to have to wash our hands a lot. When I was washing my hands at the sink, one of our senior technicians , who was married, in his 40s, had 5 kids, would come behind me, put his hands around my waist, press up against me and nuzzle my neck saying 'you're wearing that perfume again'. He did this repeatedly. And I wasn't the only one. So it's never acceptable in my book.
I agree with both you and @Gwladysover , but I was bemused at my wife's reaction.

Anyway.......Beto!!!!!

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Interesting take on the Rubiales "kiss" from Mrs J.
She has no interest whatsoever in football but asked what all the fuss was about in Spain with the football president.
So I explained the background and showed her the footage.
"Well I can't see anything wrong with that , he's just excited that they won ".
Was her reply.
Me , I think it's shocking that a man can presume to kiss a woman on the lips without her permission/ encouragement. He wouldn't do that to a man in any circumstances I would suggest.
Be interested to know what the footballing women of our lovely thread think.
He should have been suspended right away then fired!!!

I read that he tried to convince her to do a mea culpa video with him on the plane on the way back. Then he says he is going to sue HER for slander. The WHOLE Spanish FA is a joke at this point!
 

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