Messymascot's faith in humanity and ginger safe haven

[peteblue]

At least you lot actually got to watch and appreciate the 80s team

And the 60’s teams…..

 

[kev]

Morning all, and a beautiful one it is too with a clear blue sky. Hope the weather is as good wherever you are. I’m off to the shop we are out of bread.
Have a good day all,

BTW
I loved this post in between all the soul seaching.
Stay grounded G.

 

[Val P]

I think I need to explain to everybody that my transition from STH to seemingly CBA was a gradual one. I was a STH from the early noughties along with 2 friends, and a third guy who would take up the ticket if one of us didn't need it. In my case it was pretty regular as I had many clients who bought hospitality at Goodison. Not only was i sometimes one of their guests, but I also put it out there that I'd be a happy beneficiary of a last minute invitation should one of their guests cry off, and I would still get the odd invitation even after I retired.. So about a dozen times a year I'd enjoy hospitality at the game and this third friend would probably get to go to about half the games.

When Sam Allardyce took over I spat my dummy out and refused to go to the game. The third guy took my season ticket. In the meantime Cal and I had decided to move to Cornwall so I told my mate that he could take over my season ticket indefinitely and until we moved i would take over the position of taking up the spare ticket if one came available. So I was sort of weaned off going the game, and tbh I didn't miss it as much as i expected too.

After Cal died, my head was all over the place and I needed to manage my disappointments, which has sadly included Everton over the last few years. So it isn't that I can't be arsed. In fact it's the exact opposite which is why I need to protect myself.

Incidentally, my 3 mates all gave up their season tickets after covid. I think they all realised that going the game had become a habit and that none of them missed it as much as I thought (similar to me during the Allardyce reign). They also realised that they had only kept going because they didn't want to upset the other 2 (take note Val). They each came to this decision independently and were dreading telling the others.

I think I would kiss goodbye to Everton visits in a heartbeat if I could live in Cornwall and I suspect my son would too, but hell would have to freeze over before my husband would stop going. We are fairly honest between the three of us about this and in the post match argy bargy on the way home we often throw comments around like - I’m never going again, and well nobody’s making you go .
I understand that supporting Everton is not an easy ride, currently not even enjoyable, and completely understand why it is a stress you can well do without, and you must absolutely do that. I thought somehow you’d been in Cornwall much longer than that.

 

[blueloon]

Although not from Liverpool my Everton journey started in the 60’s, if ever asked why , well the long answer is complicated so I give the short one “ How could you not love a team who had a player called The Golden Vision ?”
I would say I hit my peak in the Catterick era and the 69/70 team and “ GordonwesttommywrightkeithnewtonHoward kendalbrian labone colinharveyjimmyhusband Alan balljoeyroyle johnnyhurst jonnymorrisseyHarryCatteric, ….Harrycattericharrycatteric Harry Catterick to the tune of Hare Krishna still trips off my tongue .! Those early ‘70s were a bit dire but I followed them home and away until moving south in 77 . Thereafter it was mainly away matches in London and the S East . The Kendall era was magnificent, but kids , family life and feeling definitely on edge exiting away grounds in a different direction from other Evertonians gradually reduced my live match attendance. But….once a Blue always a Blue , although for 5 minutes once I did contemplate turning, but that’s another story!

 

[Val P]

There is certainly no need for an apology mate, you were just expressing your feelings.
Your post did lead me to reflect on my own feelings, but as I said I can't find the correct way of expressing those feelings.
If I was pressed to define myself, the word 'Evertonian' would certainly have to be mentioned in the first paragraph
It would be a terrible world if it wasn't for individuality.
COYB

@kev is absolutely right @jazzy - I certainly hope you don’t feel you have to apologise to me. Quite the reverse in fact, it gave me something deep and meaningful to ponder over in the wee small hours rather than playing games on my iPad. We all have our own tale to tell x

 

[Val P]

By the way I went in the fans zone yesterday before the match but couldn't see anyone dropping pies , otherwise would have bought you a pint .

Well if you’d made yourself known you could have bought me a JD and coke

 

[blueloon]

I think I would kiss goodbye to Everton visits in a heartbeat if I could live in Cornwall and I suspect my son would too, but hell would have to freeze over before my husband would stop going. We are fairly honest between the three of us about this and in the post match argy bargy on the way home we often throw comments around like - I’m never going again, and well nobody’s making you go .
I understand that supporting Everton is not an easy ride, currently not even enjoyable, and completely understand why it is a stress you can well do without, and you must absolutely do that. I thought somehow you’d been in Cornwall much longer than that.

My youngest son, the only one who is interested In football and sport, was born in Hertfordshire in the late 80’s where Arsenal/ Spurs were the two teams, I didn’t put Everton onto him and in the 90’s he chose Arsenal . There are still some days when I ruefully shake my head and remind him he should thank me for not making him an Evertonian

 

[Val P]

My youngest son, the only one who is interested In football and sport, was born in Hertfordshire in the late 80’s where Arsenal/ Spurs were the two teams, I didn’t put Everton onto him and in the 90’s he chose Arsenal . There are still some days when I ruefully shake my head and remind him he should thank me for not making him an Evertonian

It’s a burden to pass on to someone, I’m feeling guilty about buying my granddaughter a little kit.

 

[anjelikaferrett]

Hi folks. I'm off until Thursday then off Friday ( hair appointment) and away to Belfast on Sunday. Looking forward to it. I've got our tickets for the Titanic Exhibition and I've hired a car so hopefully we can do a bit of exploring as well.
@peteblue. I'm so happy things are going well for Kay. I love your updates.
Now for the hot topic of Evertonianism. I was born into two families of Evertonians so there was never a choice. I've no idea why my Irish grandparents on arrival in Liverpool chose Everton but they did. My maternal Grandad stopped going to the match in 1933 - when someone peed down the back of his best suit. My Dad had a season ticket for a while. My earliest memory of Everton was watching my Dad, in the sweltering heat of Lagos, where we lived for a while, clad in a woolly Everton scarf and hat, listening to the 1966 FA Cup Final 9n the World Service.
I've never had a season ticket but I went loads in tne 70s and 80s. Gordon Lee's teams hold a very special place in my heart- more so than the 80s teams. It was just fun. Running to the turnstiles in case they sold out and you couldn't get in! If I still lived in Liverpool I would go much more. I've lost my match buddy too since he moved to Nottingham- much harder to co- ordinate things and this year there has been the added problem of his illness.
I've been the most ambivalent about them than I have ever been this season. I agree with whoever said it's like a toxic relationship. However I can't imagine not having them in my life or caring about them. They say it is darkest before the dawn. Let's hope this rings true with the takeover. Incidentally I'm rooting for Jose as our next manager. He has history with them. Would be the best eye candy since Carlo

 

[blueloon]

It’s a burden to pass on to someone, I’m feeling guilty about buying my granddaughter a little kit.

Ah don’t feel guilty , my 2 year old grandson got an Arsenal kit from his dad for Christmas , maybe I got it all wrong

 

[anjelikaferrett]

It’s a burden to pass on to someone, I’m feeling guilty about buying my granddaughter a little kit.

I've told my daughter, grandson is getting an Everton kit once he arrives

 

[jazzy]

Well if you’d made yourself known you could have bought me a JD and coke

I looked for you too! At least I tried

 

[Val P]

I looked for you too! At least I tried

I was the one in blue

 

[jazzy]

I was the one in blue

I actually thought you were the blonde lady doing the team news and getting the kids to give their ill informed score predictions but then realised that she didn't have a Wigan accent

 

[jazzy]

And whilst I'm on the point of kids in the fans zone ..... I know JP is probably out highest profile player but pretty sad that all of them bar one ( who went for Ndayie) said that the goalie was their favourite player.

Good job she didn't ask me , hopefully she's heard of Alan Ball !