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Transfer Rumour Michy Batshuayi

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It's one of those signings where you basically wave the white flag and accept never breaking into European qualification positions.

He's not terrible but we should be looking at much better. Specifically, we should be building a technically proficient attack, and Batshuayi doesn't tick that box.

We need to move away from the "Lukaku" mindset of having a grock up front who bags goals and does little else. There's an obvious ceiling to that approach.
 
Wheres the 14 mill fee come from? Cant really go wrong with that, before he went to Spain he generally had a decent record. Hes ahead of what we have now and has potential to grow being only 25. As long as it's not silly wages I think hed be a good signing.
 
It's one of those signings where you basically wave the white flag and accept never breaking into European qualification positions.

He's not terrible but we should be looking at much better. Specifically, we should be building a technically proficient attack, and Batshuayi doesn't tick that box.

We need to move away from the "Lukaku" mindset of having a grock up front who bags goals and does little else. There's an obvious ceiling to that approach.
I agree on what we need in the longer term, but the truth is we're struggling for goals at the moment, and he might help to solve that. I don't want him to come in and be our 'new Lukaku' who we rely on to play week in week out for the next few years, but it's not going to be easy to bring in a technically excellent striker who also scores a lot of goals, and we have some technically proficient players up there already. It may not be a bad thing to have a decent physical, pacy, finisher who gives us another option. Liverpool are top and have managed to find a use for the likes of Sturridge and Origi who aren't exactly wonderful team players, and Batshuayi himself managed to get on the pitch in more than half of Chelsea's games when they won the league, so the obvious ceiling would appear to be quite high.
 
What we need is basically a better version of Shane Long/Troy Deeney. A hard working striker who will run all day long, run the channels, harass the opposition defence to stop them playing it out, lead the team to press the opposition, get into good scoring positions, finish well and have a touch of nastiness about them. Shouldn't be too hard to find lol

I just read all that and thought......... Sounds exactly like Drogba. So what I'm basically saying is we need the new Drogba.
 

It's one of those signings where you basically wave the white flag and accept never breaking into European qualification positions.

He's not terrible but we should be looking at much better. Specifically, we should be building a technically proficient attack, and Batshuayi doesn't tick that box.

We need to move away from the "Lukaku" mindset of having a grock up front who bags goals and does little else. There's an obvious ceiling to that approach.

While I agree for the most part, it would still be nice to have someone who just slots the chances we create.
 
While I agree for the most part, it would still be nice to have someone who just slots the chances we create.

In the short term, yes. Hell, Lukaku back would have us comfortably 7th and challenging 6th.

But in the long term, it's simply not a top tier effective strategy to have a player like that leading the line in modern football.

If Batshuayi comes in and is long-term a "super sub", and we buy a "proper" striker in the summer, I'd be delighted. But my fear is he'd score 10 goals from now until the end of the season and the Everton "that's good enough for us" mindset will come to the fore and we'll "go with what we've got."

Lukaku isn't good enough for an ambitious Everton; Batshuayi, in many ways a lesser Lukaku, certainly isn't.
 
In the short term, yes. Hell, Lukaku back would have us comfortably 7th and challenging 6th.

But in the long term, it's simply not a top tier effective strategy to have a player like that leading the line in modern football.

If Batshuayi comes in and is long-term a "super sub", and we buy a "proper" striker in the summer, I'd be delighted. But my fear is he'd score 10 goals from now until the end of the season and the Everton "that's good enough for us" mindset will come to the fore and we'll "go with what we've got."

Lukaku isn't good enough for an ambitious Everton; Batshuayi, in many ways a lesser Lukaku, certainly isn't.

I do agree.

But we simply wouldn't get the players who actually would push us onto that next level. So it needs to be incremental.

Not that i'm fussed about this guy at all and honestly don't think there's anything in this link at all.
 
He's never impressed me other than in fits and starts. He seems to miss 5 or 6 really good chances for every one he does score, that may well be down to confidence bit it's telling that no Chelsea manager ever really fancied him.

I'd imagine he would be a heavy burden on the wage structure also. Unless Sandro, Bolassie etc can be shifted off the payroll then it would be a no for me.
 
I'm not massively convinced but he was highly regarded before joining the Chelsea loan merry go round so for the prices bandied around he may be worth a go.
 

In the short term, yes. Hell, Lukaku back would have us comfortably 7th and challenging 6th.

But in the long term, it's simply not a top tier effective strategy to have a player like that leading the line in modern football.

If Batshuayi comes in and is long-term a "super sub", and we buy a "proper" striker in the summer, I'd be delighted. But my fear is he'd score 10 goals from now until the end of the season and the Everton "that's good enough for us" mindset will come to the fore and we'll "go with what we've got."

Lukaku isn't good enough for an ambitious Everton; Batshuayi, in many ways a lesser Lukaku, certainly isn't.

Agree, bar the Lukaku stuff, but I know you're opinion on him so fair enough.
 
I think those comments are being taken slightly out of context though. The way I read it, he was just saying while we might pay £50m for a player, it wouldn't be the sort of established £50m player who wants £200k a week, it would be a Richarlison type who is on much less. I don't think there was anything to suggest that our plan is to always pay a lot of money for people, or to pay very low wages, just that it was difficult to balance big signings with a manageable wage bill. I have no idea whether we have any interest in Batshuayi, but I see no reason why he wouldn't fit in with the criteria for signings. In fact, he falls very much into the same category as pretty much every other signing we've made since Brands arrived.

I suspect with us trying to cut down our current wage budget a Chelsea player wouldn’t really help that.
 
I hope he doesn't become a 20 goal a season striker. Fed up feeding the top six.
 

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