Migrant Crisis

[ilikecheese]

Never thought this thread would have made it past 10 pages. Bravo.

 

[SNova]

A stab at why these folk, not the ones in Calais, dont try their luck in Saudi Arabia, Dubai, or Egypt, is probably because to get there they would have to walk through a few hundred square miles of ISIS controlled land. Probably the very thing they are legging it from.

Sorted then. We help make a safe route to those countries.

 

[roydo]

Sorted then. We help make a safe route to those countries.

Good luck with that.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I've been to many so called 'developing' countries over the years. I've seen Children brought up on the sides of dirt tracks in dust and pollution and places where people have little hope or opportunity. In Africa I was getting stopped all the time by people asking how I could help them get to the UK. All this time thinking 'why would you want to leave your family and community for cold wet days in northern England?'
Through the Internet and global television they're seeing people living with proper roads, houses, schools and hospitals. Where the power doesn't go off every day. They're watching premier league footballers who earn incomprehensible amounts of money. Many people see the opportunity of a better life. It's not just about escaping war torn countries it's about wanting to experience the many things we take for granted. I personally think we're being greedy and selfish for disallowing people these privledges.

 

[oldblue]

Things like the whole hijab debate in France might put some people off France.

yeah, the 'free speech' debate over the Mohammed cartoons no matter what the rights or wrongs are would not make me feel I was welcome at the moment

 

[oldblue]

I've been to many so called 'developing' countries over the years. I've seen Children brought up on the sides of dirt tracks in dust and pollution and places where people have little hope or opportunity. In Africa I was getting stopped all the time by people asking how I could help them get to the UK. All this time thinking 'why would you want to leave your family and community for cold wet days in northern England?'
Through the Internet and global television they're seeing people living with proper roads, houses, schools and hospitals. Where the power doesn't go off every day. They're watching premier league footballers who earn incomprehensible amounts of money. Many people see the opportunity of a better life. It's not just about escaping war torn countries it's about wanting to experience the many things we take for granted. I personally think we're being greedy and selfish for disallowing people these privledges.

beautifully put. We are always keen to advertise the delights of a free capitalist country then object to how people may feel about their own needs in countries with less resources. To hear people saying anyone who is prepared to leave their home with no guarantee of anything is greedy is very strange.

 

[oldblue]

Sorted then. We help make a safe route to those countries.

volunteer for that, I will join you and then I will believe you are sincere

 

[bizzaro]

I've been to many so called 'developing' countries over the years. I've seen Children brought up on the sides of dirt tracks in dust and pollution and places where people have little hope or opportunity. In Africa I was getting stopped all the time by people asking how I could help them get to the UK. All this time thinking 'why would you want to leave your family and community for cold wet days in northern England?'
Through the Internet and global television they're seeing people living with proper roads, houses, schools and hospitals. Where the power doesn't go off every day. They're watching premier league footballers who earn incomprehensible amounts of money. Many people see the opportunity of a better life. It's not just about escaping war torn countries it's about wanting to experience the many things we take for granted. I personally think we're being greedy and selfish for disallowing people these privledges.

I don't see many countries offering to pay off the TRILLION POUND debt the UK has.

Do you?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

 

[bizzaro]

One thing I don't understand is why they aren't fleeing to countries like Saudi Arabia, Dubai etc.

Wealthy countries with the same religion, language and similar culture.

Because they'll never be granted permanent residence or citizenship friend.

Thats why.

Where as the soft-touchs in the UK will grant any tom d ic k or harry 'permanent leave to remain' forever.

Even when refugees own countries are 'safe' later.

 

[roydo]

 

[roydo]

Because they'll never be granted permanent residence or citizenship friend.

Thats why.

Where as the soft-touchs in the UK will grant any tom d ic k or harry 'permanent leave to remain' forever.

Even when refugees own countries are 'safe' later.

A stab at why these folk, not the ones in Calais, dont try their luck in Saudi Arabia, Dubai, or Egypt, is probably because to get there they would have to walk through a few hundred square miles of ISIS controlled land. Probably the very thing they are legging it from.

 

[bizzaro]

They're heading north mate.

Not south. Which they could very easily do as a lot of them are going to Egypt or Libya first too.

 

[neil999]

Because they'll never be granted permanent residence or citizenship friend.

Thats why.

Where as the soft-touchs in the UK will grant any tom d ic k or harry 'permanent leave to remain' forever.

Even when refugees own countries are 'safe' later.

you need to educate yourself

 

[roydo]

They're heading north mate.

Not south. Which they could very easily do as a lot of them are going to Egypt or Libya first too.

Nah. They literally would have to walk through ISISland mate.


edit. Or walk hundreds of miles though the desert in Iraq. Turkey/Hungary seems a better bet to me if I had to do either.