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minor things that make you fume

I played football until I was 40. I lived next door to a guy who was involved with Maidenhead Rugby. After I hung my boots up he talked me into going to watch the rugby. A rugby club is a different world to football. After playing football (four or five clubs) everyone went home. The rugby club is a 'family club' and no one leaves after a game. Players nor supporters. Every Sunday there are well over 100 kids at different ages, playing the game and loving it. Never played the game in my life but really enjoy watching (even though I am clueless about most of the laws of the game). No diving or cheating, no pretending to be injured, respect for the referees. The occasional punch-up which is sorted out over a beer after the game.
 
Most rugby union teams want ALL the kids to stay involved for as long as possible, so this means that the less able kids get plenty of games time as well as the more able.

I`ve even seen games where they`ve taken kids off, lessening the numbers, to give the other team more of a fighting chance.

However once they get to about 13, the less able kids tend to drop off, as the game becomes much more physical and infinitely quicker due to lads becoming teenagers and growing into monsters !

Sounds good. The lad I was talking about may well have been in the minority of parents. And I think it's Rugby League!
 

Sounds good. The lad I was talking about may well have been in the minority of parents. And I think it's Rugby League!

The parents in Rugby League are completely different, they`re full on and from what I know about League, there`s very few kids teams that are inclusive.

Most have very obvious A and B teams, so your work mates kids team is quite and exception to the rule.

I`m sure @widnesblue will back me up on this.
 
The parents in Rugby League are completely different, they`re full on and from what I know about League, there`s very few kids teams that are inclusive.

Most have very obvious A and B teams, so your work mates kids team is quite and exception to the rule.

I`m sure @widnesblue will back me up on this.


A lot of junior league teams, if kid isn’t deemed good enough. No chance they’ll pick them. The coaches will regularly tell the kids to go to other clubs, and clubs who ain’t good.

The used to be loads of kids who’d turn up to train, got told not good enough after first training session and be asked not to come back.

My lad plays under 6’s now and I’ve seen kids turn up and get told the is no chance they’ll play. Sad really.
 
A lot of junior league teams, if kid isn’t deemed good enough. No chance they’ll pick them. The coaches will regularly tell the kids to go to other clubs, and clubs who ain’t good.

The used to be loads of kids who’d turn up to train, got told not good enough after first training session and be asked not to come back.

My lad plays under 6’s now and I’ve seen kids turn up and get told the is no chance they’ll play. Sad really.

That’s horrible.

Take him to the Wids ;)
 
That’s horrible.

Take him to the Wids ;)

He’s going the Wids in next few weeks. Couple of his friends are all going to try it out. They’ve had enough of training sessions not been fun. 5 years of age and they’ve got them working on fitness levels. When we was that age, we was getting taught how to throw the ball around, playing tick and pass, no real contact. It used to be fun. Now they’ve got them running around working on fitness levels.
 

He’s going the Wids in next few weeks. Couple of his friends are all going to try it out. They’ve had enough of training sessions not been fun. 5 years of age and they’ve got them working on fitness levels. When we was that age, we was getting taught how to throw the ball around, playing tick and pass, no real contact. It used to be fun. Now they’ve got them running around working on fitness levels.

With Union they play with tag belts until they’re 8/9 and it’s much more about ball handling / passing, rather than speed and tackling.

What I will say is that the League kids usually smash the Union kids when they play them, as they’re faster, much more aggressive and tackle in packs, rather than in ones and twos.

So you need to accept that from the start.

It’s a much nicer environment for the kids though and the parents are much nicer too.
 
Can you expand ?
A lot of ‘work’ has been done in Rugby to bring about changes to the way the games coached to fall in line with the work Carol Dweck did about 30 years ago. It’s meant that there’s a shift away from competition to playing the game for the sake of playing the game - shouldn’t be applauding outcomes rather the effort etc. Allied to that is a shift away from drills to using games for understanding (as kids find drills ‘boring’ etc.)

The problem is that the whole things gone overboard, kids are leaving the sport left right and centre (often going into sports which emphasise competition- swimming, martial arts/boxing football etc.) and we are getting a generation of kids who don’t actually have the skills to play the game properly. (At an academy pre assessment session the other week we had kids put forward who couldn’t pass or catch by clubs.)

I’ll be looking after a clubs coaching education next year - as such there’s a lot of work on to get things back on track and deprogramme A LOT of nonsense.

There’s been some good little changes, but on the whole it’s put the sport back years in one fell swoop.
 
Caldy is a wonderful club if you ever decide to come back.

They always play mixed ability teams with the kids, which leads to them sometimes getting beaten when they shouldn`t really.

It`s a great set up there and if I lived there, the club house would be my local, as it`s like a pub and is glorious to sit outside in the Summer and look over the Dee.

My old man played for Caldy. Then Hoylake when he left school. Daniel Craig played for Hoylake as well.
 

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