Modern Football Fans & Stats

[blue to the bone]

Take your point but...

That’s where the “key passes” and “chances created” stats come in.

Your absolutely right that goals and assists stats don’t mean everything. However, there are many other stats to look at when judging a player.

The people who say “watching a player is the best way to judge him” have a point. But you wouldn’t just watch them once. Is Steven Naismith as good as the hat trick against Chelsea suggests? No. You’d have to watch him 5-10 times to see how good he really is.

Realistically stats don’t show the whole picture. Neither does watching a player play 1 game.

A mixture of stats and watching a player is the best way to judge them. That’s what most football clubs do before spending their money.

The player’s lifestyle and potential off the field problems are also important. As is the player’s family situation, agent and language skills.

However, offer me the chance to watch a player once or look at 3 years worth of stats for a player efc might sign and if I was making the decision I’d take the stats.

Any club that watches a player once and sign him will not end up in a great position.
Stats may alert a club to a player. But extensively watching him is the way to go.
Players are mentioned on the transfer thread and people come in with goals and assists stats and right them off or big them up. That's ridiculous .

 

[Viennablue]

Thats like saying I would rather sign a player after watching him for 30 games rather than looking at 1 stat.

I suppose it is.

But that’s the point. Some people genuinely think watching them once or twice is better than looking at the stats.

Plus if you watched a player 30 times you’d be building up an impression in your head. Strengths and weaknesses. The statistics just give you that impression a lot quicker.

Also it’s more scientific. Stats have no bias or motive if they’re collected correctly.

Stats give you an accurate picture of how good a player is/isn’t far quicker than you could if you had to sit down and watch game after game.

 

[roydo]

I more interested in the team stats. That tells an actual story.

 

[Viennablue]

Any club that watches a player once and sign him will not end up in a great position.
Stats may alert a club to a player. But extensively watching him is the way to go.
Players are mentioned on the transfer thread and people come in with goals and assists stats and right them off or big them up. That's ridiculous .

That’s why you have to take into a account which club a player plays for, what league they are playing in, what position do they play and what role are they deployed in.

All this information can be found in the statistics.

 

[blue to the bone]

That’s why you have to take into a account which club a player plays for, what league they are playing in, what position do they play and what role are they deployed in.

All this information can be found in the statistics.

I dont think the team or league a player plays in would come under the category of stats!!

 

[Viennablue]

I don't think anyone is saying sample size isn't an issue. I mean, look at Bungle, he's watching tons of webcams to come to his conclusions, not just once here or there. The police data backs up these observations.

Haha, what he does on his own time is up to him I guess.

Good luck the lad! Keep it legal though.

Anyway, stats. The young lads love em and I think they’re useful.

 

[Billysgingham.]

Exactly, which is why you can't trust stats. Here's some interesting Rom numbers

Trophies Lukaku has won: 0
Amount of times Lukaku has hidden behind a centre half for the duration of a game he's not feeling up to: 1,000,000

48goals in 81 appearances for his country that's world level kid, he became only second player to score 2 goals in consecutive games in the world cup the other player was Maradona, Messi hasn't done it, Ronaldo hasn't done it but Rom and Diego have, go figure.

 

[Viennablue]

I dont think the team or league a player plays in would come under the category of stats!!

Yes, it would.

Transfermarkt kid. Get yourself on there.

You can look at a player’s whole career. How many goals/assists they get in different countries/leagues

All good stat info

Thank me later. Enjoy!

 

[Connor]

This is a rather naive view of stats, to be fair. Everyone knows the talented xMeffs use their eyes and can even sometimes form complete sentences to support their favorite stats.

I don’t believe you

 

[SerenityNigh]

I don’t believe you

Let me pull up the data for you...

 

[blue to the bone]

Haha, what he does on his own time is up to him I guess.

Good luck the lad! Keep it legal though.

Anyway, stats. The young lads love em and I think they’re useful.

Rather watch a match mate.
And if a scout has to look at transfer market to see who a player plays for he needs a new job .

 

[Prevenger17]

he became only second player to score 2 goals in consecutive games in the world cup the other player was Maradona. Messi hasn't done it, Ronaldo hasn't done it but Rom and Diego have, go figure.

Must be better than Messi and Ronaldo with amazing stats like those. Do you have a comparison of how many goals each player scored before the age of 22??

 

[Billysgingham.]

Must be better than Messi and Ronaldo with amazing stats like those. Do you have a comparison of how many goals each player scored before the age of 22??

Oh so you what stats now.

 

[Prevenger17]

Oh so you what stats now.

Think that one went over your head, no worries

 

[Billysgingham.]

Think that one went over your head, no worries

Ditto.