2019/20 Moise Kean

[MrGrumpy]

Kean has played well when Iwobi in the team but Silva won’t play Iwobi as the 10 with Kean upfront and that’s your problem.

the kid needs game time in a settled team and we have neither atm. The only position that doesn’t change on our team is GK and LB the rest are up for grabs and that’s the problem

 

[TrachyBlue]

'Liking' boos aimed at the team, playing 'kin rubbish, posing with his £10K watches. He can GTF.

Is it ok with you if any of our other players buy expensive watches Dave?

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Is it ok with you if any of our other players buy expensive watches Dave?

Here they come @davek ......

The implication that there is something racist or sinister about criticism of Kean is irretrievably stupid.

 

[Lanolin]

Jumping on a kid for liking an IG.

I know millennials get all the abuse but some of you “adults” need to severely get a life lol

It was a pretty stupid and unprofessional thing to do to be fair. If Schneiderlin or Keane had done it people would want them stringing up, it's only fair to point out it's unacceptable for players we (inexplicably) think are boss to do it too.

 

[Nymzee]

Here they come @davek ......

The implication that there is something racist or sinister about criticism of Kean is irretrievably stupid.

I don’t think they’re implying anything of the sort just wondering why he singles out one player from a full squad that lead expensive lifestyles.

Bit weird to presume people are accusing others of being racist.

 

[Nymzee]

It was a pretty stupid and unprofessional thing to do to be fair. If Schneiderlin or Keane had done it people would want them stringing up, it's only fair to point out it's unacceptable for players we (inexplicably) think are boss to do it too.

I wouldn’t blast a single player for liking a post hinting at the sacking of our inept manager. Maybe I should care more about people on social media. I suspect others should maybe just care less.

 

[Toffeelover]

Kean has played well when Iwobi in the team but Silva won’t play Iwobi as the 10 with Kean upfront and that’s your problem.

the kid needs game time in a settled team and we have neither atm. The only position that doesn’t change on our team is GK and LB the rest are up for grabs and that’s the problem

Not just them manages to fit in Walcott, Siggy and Schneids come what may.

 

[Lanolin]

I wouldn’t blast a single player for liking a post hinting at the sacking of our inept manager. Maybe I should care more about people on social media. I suspect others should maybe just care less.

I don't 'care' about it, I just think it was a pretty unprofessional thing to do. When your professionalism has already been called into question, and you've contributed nothing in a football sense, I'm not sure it's a great idea to do something like that personally. He'd better pick up pretty sharpish as soon as Silva goes or he'll soon find that it'll be him getting booed and heckled. It'll be interesting to see how happy he is if his team mates start liking videos of him getting abused.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

I don’t think they’re implying anything of the sort just wondering why he singles out one player from a full squad that lead expensive lifestyles.

Bit weird to presume people are accusing others of being racist.

You're assuming that the reason Kean is criticised is because he leads an expensive lifestyle - it isn't.

He's been dropped and fined by coaches at club level and international level for being late and breaking rules on multiple occasions.

He steps on to the pitch and it would be kind to say he's been average. He's been utterly anonymous.

These are the reasons he's being criticised. But on top of that, he has the cheek to like posts on instagram criticising the incumbent manager of Everton Football Club. Whether we like him or not, he's still our manager, he's still MK's boss and he'll still be picking the team on Sunday. There's got to be a level of respect there.

It's unprofessional and suggests to me that his head isn't entirely focused on his Football, as it should be, and patently needs to be if he's to realise his obvious potential.

You can see why, for some fans, he's not Mr Popular.

 

[TrachyBlue]

You're assuming that the reason Kean is criticised is because he leads an expensive lifestyle - it isn't.

But he has expensive watches.

 

[okellypj]

I just love how in all these threads recently people seem to know:

- the ins and outs of a player's personality from a couple of social media posts
- the lack of planning at board level because they haven't come out and said anything publicly

 

[Gaffa]

Some wanted Cenk sacked for saluting on international duty, which was absolutely nothing to do with Everton FC. People like to makes issues for issues sake

 

[Sverre Takleifbotten]

Yes, it does take players time to adapt. I 100% agree and that's why nobody is expecting him to bag loads and set the world alight. These militant Kean supporters like to conflate the argument by insisting anyone criticising Kean clearly has too lofty expectations - it's simply not the case. As fans, all we want to see is a bit of energy, even if it doesn't result in a goal.

There are fundamentals we should expect of Football players whether you're in a new league or not, whether you're 17 or 37. Turning up on time and working hard are two of them. And that's where the issues with Kean start. His performances haven't been very good, his effort hasn't been particularly high and his attitude in response to being out of the team, hasn't been to knuckle down and prove his critics wrong, he's sulked and took to social media to complain. It doesn't bode well. He got a start in the cup against Watford and did absolutely nothing to merit it, he was rightly hooked at half-time and the game turned in our favour.

If you don't have discipline when managing a team, and you reward players who break the rules and punish those who follow the rules, you lose all respect from your team. That's why Tosun and DCL get the game time and this kid doesn't. It's nothing to do with raw Football ability, which Kean may well have more of than the two just mentioned - but unless he recognises that it's a team game, he'll never get the opportunities to thrive. He'll be another Balotelli, a waste.

I am an admirer of Kean, but I agree with what you write. It is too early to write off him, but the club has taken a huge risk. Because Kean's disciplinary problems are nothing new. So one should expect that the club has taken certain precautions. I don't know if the club is analyzing the players' psychological profile, but at least that's something they should start with. When spending so much money, one should know as much as possible before making a decision.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

I just love how in all these threads recently people seem to know:

- the ins and outs of a player's personality from a couple of social media posts
- the lack of planning at board level because they haven't come out and said anything publicly

For many people, myself included, it's their job to assess people's motivations, weaknesses and character, often going off little more than body language and tone.

You can tell a lot about a person without them saying very much. When reports of poor behaviour, lateness and rulebreaking are confirmed officially, and then you see unprofessional social media posts, you have a lot more to go off.

As far as I can see, nobody is claiming to intimately know Kean's personality. But it's fair to say that what I've seen thus far, I'm not particularly impressed by, that's all. Which is a shame really, because he obviously came with such a reputation and he's got ability, but perhaps doesn't have the character to get the most of it - which is often more important.

Perhaps under a different manager, the lad can turn it around. I certainly hope he does. I just have a feeling, unless he modifies his attitude and approach, it won't matter who we have in charge and he won't make it at the highest level.

 

[Nymzee]

You're assuming that the reason Kean is criticised is because he leads an expensive lifestyle - it isn't.

He's been dropped and fined by coaches at club level and international level for being late and breaking rules on multiple occasions.

He steps on to the pitch and it would be kind to say he's been average. He's been utterly anonymous.

These are the reasons he's being criticised. But on top of that, he has the cheek to like posts on instagram criticising the incumbent manager of Everton Football Club. Whether we like him or not, he's still our manager, he's still MK's boss and he'll still be picking the team on Sunday. There's got to be a level of respect there.

It's unprofessional and suggests to me that his head isn't entirely focused on his Football, as it should be, and patently needs to be if he's to realise his obvious potential.

You can see why, for some fans, he's not Mr Popular.

Dave literally made a joke about him juggling expensive watches you blurt.

Didn’t read the rest of your reply.