2019/20 Moise Kean

[blueconverse]

Kean and richarlison up top with Iwobi behind would be very interesting

Pace and Power. Hope we see it soon.

 

[Steve Wigan]

You put ‘good boy’ in quotations, as though I said it. I did not say Ronaldo was a good boy at any point.

In response to your question, yes I have heard of man management. I’ve got over 30 direct reports in my role and I expect each one of them to turn up on time to internal meetings, client meetings and to follow the same rules everyone else has to - it’s hardly a strict regime.

It’s not “a couple of minor incidents of lateness”. If you believe so then you’re obviously incredibly naive. Do you reckon any club would drop a player and make a public example of them over him being 5 or 10 minutes late once or twice?

He has behaved this way before Everton and he’s carried it on here. He needs to understand that actions have consequences. I don’t want to crucify anyone. All I said was that if someone repeatedly breaks rules, there has to be a consequence, wouldn’t you agree? That’s not strict in any way, it’s good practice in any line of work.

If you reward players that don’t follow the rules, then there is no point whatsoever in having rules and anarchy ensues.

Dropping him from the team is a lesson, one that hopefully he learns from. No more needs to be said on the matter. If he follows the rules and works hard, he’s got a great chance of realising that potential he obviously has - if he doesn’t then he won’t. Very simple.

You're obviously not in a job that requires you to be popular, or sensitive. Sounds like the Peter Principle in full force again.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

You're obviously not in a job that requires you to be popular, or sensitive. Sounds like the Peter Principle in full force again.

Tell me, mate. How would you deal with a player who broke rules and was late on multiple occasions (and had a history of previously being so)?

Bearing in mind, if you let them get away with it, you're not being particularly sensitive to the other 20 odd players in the squad who do follow the rules.

If I got myself out of bed on time every day and followed the rules set out, and some guy repeatedly failed to do just that, I'd expect management to deal with it.

The manager wouldn't be popular for very long if one person was allowed to come and go as they please without consequence, while others respected their colleagues and the rules of the team.

 

[Lanolin]

You're obviously not in a job that requires you to be popular, or sensitive. Sounds like the Peter Principle in full force again.

And you've obviously never managed people if you put being popular anywhere near your list of priorities.

 

[Bungle]

yes I have heard of man management. I’ve got over 30 direct reports in my role

 

[God Benfrey]

Pace and Power. Hope we see it soon.

Along with the fact that they can actually take on defenders as well as have a natural eye for goal would mean surely they have to get a chance of playing together in a pair

 

[davids]

Has he left yet?

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

There's flashes of talent there. I feel pretty confident he'll turn out good for us. That said, am I the only one who thinks he should have scored from that shot the other day? Schmeichel was in no man's land.

I think it's a stretch to say he "should have scored". He hit it first time from way out, there was still lots to do. It was a very good effort - not an easy goal

 

[Deleted member 38674]

And you've obviously never managed people if you put being popular anywhere near your list of priorities.

Love this!

 

[blueblue]

I think Kean has been handled well and I thought he looked more comfortable in the game on Sunday than in any other appearance he has made so far, maybe he is settling in.

 

[Steve Wigan]

And you've obviously never managed people if you put being popular anywhere near your list of priorities.

So you think being disliked is a plus point for a manager? Wow! And concerning the above...the correct answer is yes I have. Every one of the staff I've had over the years is still in regular in touch with me and I see most of them on a regular basis, or at least get a phone call. I can recommend a good book for you...its about 40 years old but probably still in print...'How To Win Friends And Influence People' by Dale Carnegie.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Came on on Sunday and done more in 15 mins than a slightly older player did in 75 and a far more experienced player did the previous two games

On just that 15 minutes alone, he should start more games. Yes, 100%. That's the 1st time in his Everton career that he's come on and looked....'lively' is probably the appropriate description. It was a positive. However, you just know that there will be countless acts of revisionism of this cameo appearance in the coming weeks and months if we don't see more of them - "remember when Kean came on and tore Leicester to shreds, I can't believe Marco didn't give him more game time' etc.

I totally agree, he was better than DCL (though that's not exactly high praise). However, the way any manager bases his decisions isn't based just on a 15 minutes cameo is it? It's how you conduct yourself in training too, which is the only reason Kean hasn't had more game time up to now - it's his fault and nobody else's.

He now needs to do this stuff regularly and do it when the fans aren't watching too. If he does, he'll definitely get some game time, Silva is desperate for some energy and inspiration up top.

This is a different thread to the Kean thread mate, yet it seems your agenda stops at nothing.

I don't have an agenda. I just disagree with people suggesting that Kean is getting a raw deal when he's patently bringing it on himself.

Also the lad was late twice for team meetings, he was rightly fined and dropped, served his punishment and now seems to be toeing the line.

You reckon he was late only twice? You think that the club would drop and make a public example of a young player, a star signing - over him being late just twice?

Good to see you agree that he deserved his punishment though, so you agree that if Kean was misbehaving it was right that he wasn't in the team?

Good, glad we found some common ground there.

Erm you do know he was late fella, think Kieran may have mentioned it everywhere, I mean somewhere.

You're literally the one who brought him up in the Reinier Jesus thread more than 2 weeks later lol

 

[cronullasharks]

 

[everton fan number one]

In response to your question, yes I have heard of man management. I’ve got over 30 direct reports in my role and I expect each one of them to turn up on time to internal meetings, client meetings and to follow the same rules everyone else has to - it’s hardly a strict regime.

I could have sworn you were about 12.

 

[Del-boy]

He’s the future... should be starting every game.