2019/20 Moise Kean

[sageyefc]

He didn’t insinuate Kean had an attitude problem. He didn’t reference a bad attitude or unprofessionalism as far as I can remember either.

This is how these things fester. Some guy on Twitter trying to get a few RT’s. Notice how he doesn’t use actual quotes in his 1st tweet but still uses quotation marks for what he didn’t say. But then uses an actual quote in his 2nd tweet. Nonsense.

I’m all for slating a bloke who’s been racist, but not liking someone isn’t really enough to make those claims.

He's got history of going after black players though.


Funny how I've only seen kopites try to defend souness over this

 

[Hangleton]

He's got history of going after black players though.


Funny how I've only seen kopites try to defend souness over this

There was no need for what he said - and he was definitely inferring there was all likelihood of an attitude problem if Juve were willing to let him go. Mourinho was saying the same.

 

[Nymzee]

Anyone got the actual Sounness clip/quote?

 

[Deleted member 38674]

He's got history of going after black players though.

Has he? What’s he said about black players? So it’s THAT historic racism that’s caused the uproar and not these relatively tame comments?

For me, the tweets someone just shared here from HLTCO which are then re-published on social media and on forums like this and accepted as fact simply add misinformation and fuel to the fire. At no point did he mention unprofessionalism or a bad attitude.

I don’t think comparing the Footballing traits / attributes of Bolasie to Iwobi means you are racist and I don’t think comparing Kean’s sale from Juve to Adebayor’s sale from Arsenal is racist. As Zatara pointed out, I actually think it was a veiled compliment to us that we managed to pull off what appears to be such a shrewd signing on the cheap.

It’s quite a big leap to call a bloke a racist. For me, not liking someone isn’t enough to give them that label. It get’s thrown around willy nilly. You might ask, “why are you going out of your way to defend a RS?”. I’d also ask, “why are you going out of your way to make someone a racist?”

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

He didn’t insinuate Kean had an attitude problem. He didn’t reference a bad attitude or unprofessionalism as far as I can remember either.

This is how these things fester. Some guy on Twitter trying to get a few RT’s. Notice how he doesn’t use actual quotes in his 1st tweet but still uses quotation marks for what he didn’t say. But then uses an actual quote in his 2nd tweet. Nonsense.

I’m all for slating a bloke who’s been racist, but not liking someone isn’t really enough to make those claims.

Some of the shouts coming out off Italy were that Kean has an attitude problem, looking at him when he's played it doesn't come across he has, time will tell I suppose.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

His movement is way better than Calvert-Lewin and you can see him actively trying to get on the end of things.

Said this to my lad at the game after Kean went off, Kean is always looking for space to make a run, Lewin just stands there waiting for the ball to come to him.

 

[scotchbutterpin]

 

[meagher94]

He didn’t insinuate Kean had an attitude problem. He didn’t reference a bad attitude or unprofessionalism as far as I can remember either.

This is how these things fester. Some guy on Twitter trying to get a few RT’s. Notice how he doesn’t use actual quotes in his 1st tweet but still uses quotation marks for what he didn’t say. But then uses an actual quote in his 2nd tweet. Nonsense.

I’m all for slating a bloke who’s been racist, but not liking someone isn’t really enough to make those claims.

He did. It took him the whole length of the clip to get to the point too and you knew it was coming. You could almost see the very few brain cells in his head pulling together to have a battle with his mouth to try and stop him from saying it, but in the end his big gob just couldn’t help blurting it out.

Presenter awkwardly trying to change the direction of the conversation too at the end. Absolute bell Souness.

 

[suey_11]

Said this to my lad at the game after Kean went off, Kean is always looking for space to make a run, Lewin just stands there waiting for the ball to come to him.

I know slightly off topic but the two headers Richarlison has scored against Lincoln and Wolves should be the type of goals DCL should be scoring, movement, anticipation and attacking the ball.
Kean made a couple of decent near post runs to Siggy crosses DCL seems to react rather than anticipate.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Storm in a teacup for me. Souness job is to stir the pot. I don’t particularly like the guy but the media will always employ pundits able to convincingly portray extremely positive or negative views either way. Fence sitters don’t bring viewers and don’t get any social media engagement, which is ultimately all they care about.

I don’t believe his comments were particularly insightful or succinct but I don’t think they were slanderous or racist in the slightest. In the same way people who compared Iwobi to Bolasie were labelled racist on here, some people just love to be offended.

His point, from what I could grasp (although he didn’t make it particularly well) appeared to be that he was surprised Juventus let go such an obvious young talent for cheap (even factoring in the contract situation), without a buy-back clause. And no top club with CL / EL Football was prepared to take a gamble. I think we were all fairly surprised to secure Kean and applauded Brands for the deal so that’s not necessarily a view many people would disagree with.

Souness alluding to the possibility that perhaps it wasn’t Kean’s talent on the pitch that had “put-off” potential buyers and that perhaps it was something about his personality or conduct off the pitch is the insinuation that seems to have riled everyone.

I could be wrong but I don’t think he used the word “unprofessional” at any point and I’m not sure he referred to “an attitude problem” at any point either. Had he done so, then I’d be equally annoyed, but it doesn’t appear that way to me.

I was sort of scratching my head as to how easy it was to sign him and how cheaply as well, it almost looked like that we dictated the terms to Juventus and they just rolled over for us, they even seemed to give up quite easily on the supposed buy back clause they wanted inserted into the deal.

 

[jaycee]

I was sort of scratching my head as to how easy it was to sign him and how cheaply as well, it almost looked like that we dictated the terms to Juventus and they just rolled over for us, they even seemed to give up quite easily on the supposed buy BLACK clause they wanted inserted into the deal.

bad slip that Lou

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

bad slip that Lou

Erm, just edited.

 

[Wayno]

I read online before we even signed Kean that he liked to party etc, so it Souness has done that then fair enough.

But - from what he’s said in the past, the tone in which he’s said it in and the players he’s used as a comparison, it very much looks like they he’s assumed Kean has an attitude problem because he’s black

 

[Saint Domingo]

An assist on his first prem start. Go ead Moisey lad.

 

[Bob Latchford]

There was no need for what he said - and he was definitely inferring there was all likelihood of an attitude problem if Juve were willing to let him go. Mourinho was saying the same.

Just before kick off Mourinho said we need to buy more Richarlisons and less Iwobis and Walcotts. The jist of what he was saying was that they were Arsenal rejects/not good enough for us to go beyond 6th. I thought this was particularly unfair on Iwobi who at 23 has loads of potential. Perhaps he was being honest or just trying to be controversial. I respect him for what he’s achieved as a manager and as a pundit he’s giving everyone what they expect. Souness on the other hand, is an absolute cretin.