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2020/21 Moise Kean

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Lanolin said:
Yes but the point remains the same. I'm talking about people saying that we should get literally twice as much as PSG are supposedly ready to bid, and more than twice as much as we paid for a player who has been a total failure in an Everton shirt. It might happen, i'm obviously not ITK or anything, i'm just saying that looking at it logically, it doesn't seem very likely to me.
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He wasn't a total failure in an Everton shirt though, he wasn't played enough and had a manager swap in that time so it was a tough first season, however PSG seem really keen (I know sorry ) to sign him, and given we hold all the aces I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for a much higher fee, I highly doubt we'll sell him for anything less than 35m
MikelsGoat said:
West Ham bought Seb Haller for 45m, they are now selling him for 20m after he flopped.

We bought Kean for 27m, we should sell for 13.5m cos he flopped.
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Good job your not in charge then init.
 
Carloblues said:
He wasn't a total failure in an Everton shirt though, he wasn't played enough and had a manager swap in that time so it was a tough first season, however PSG seem really keen (I know sorry ) to sign him, and given we hold all the aces I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for a much higher fee, I highly doubt we'll sell him for anything less than 35m


Good job your not in charge then init.
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Well its not really a good thing, cos we would have won the league by now.

500m over 3 years? Yeah I would have won the Champions League as well.

Cos I wouldn't have bought Haller and stuck him up top on his own, mind you, we wouldn't have Richarlison either.
 
MikelsGoat said:
Well its not really a good thing, cos we would have won the league by now.

500m over 3 years? Yeah I would have won the Champions League as well.
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You'd have spent a tenth of that budget on Haller, I've seen posts recently saying you was advocating him before west ham got him? We'd be worse of than what we are now by the sounds of it.
 

Carloblues said:
He wasn't a total failure in an Everton shirt though, he wasn't played enough and had a manager swap in that time so it was a tough first season, however PSG seem really keen (I know sorry ) to sign him, and given we hold all the aces I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for a much higher fee, I highly doubt we'll sell him for anything less than 35m


Good job your not in charge then init.
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He cost £27m and scored 2 league goals, he was a total failure. Whether that was his fault, the manager's fault, the other players' fault, my fault or whatever is pretty irrelevant really, the point is as an Everton player he did not produce the goods. If we make a profit it's not a total failure of a transfer, if we get him back and he scores loads then he hasn't been a failure, but right at this moment his Everton career has been an unmitigated disaster.

I've said before, I don't think we really do hold all the aces. If he wants to go, his extremely powerful agent wants him to go, and one of the richest and most powerful clubs in the world wants him, i'm not all that convinced we'll be standing firm. I'm also not sure we're really in a position to turn down an offer which brings us a book profit of £20m and risk getting back a player who a) doesn't want to be here, and b) may find playing for us just as difficult the second time round as he did the first time.
 
Lanolin said:
He cost £27m and scored 2 league goals, he was a total failure. Whether that was his fault, the manager's fault, the other players' fault, my fault or whatever is pretty irrelevant really, the point is as an Everton player he did not produce the goods. If we make a profit it's not a total failure of a transfer, if we get him back and he scores loads then he hasn't been a failure, but right at this moment his Everton career has been an unmitigated disaster.

I've said before, I don't think we really do hold all the aces. If he wants to go, his extremely powerful agent wants him to go, and one of the richest and most powerful clubs in the world wants him, i'm not all that convinced we'll be standing firm. I'm also not sure we're really in a position to turn down an offer which brings us a book profit of £20m and risk getting back a player who a) doesn't want to be here, and b) may find playing for us just as difficult the second time round as he did the first time.
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When he played ( and I mean started ) he generally played well,.coming on for 10 mins at the end of games is a ridiculous way to manager a young lad. So again I wouldn't say he flopped in an Everton shirt because when he was given a chance he done alrite. Scored in his only two starts in the latter stages of the season.

Of course we hold all the aces, players have power but ultimately we own his contract which is a long one and we have a very wealthy owner so like most clubs we won't be bullied into selling anyone we don't need to, so if we value Kean higher than what psg have offered he won't sold.

Kean didn't want to be here because he wasn't getting a game, who's to say he doesn't go and score 30 goals for psg this season he comes back and Carlo says listen you've went out and done well your gonna play a big role next season?

Selling him now at that price to me a bad bad business, given how he has started his career at psg.
 
Lanolin said:
He cost £27m and scored 2 league goals, he was a total failure. Whether that was his fault, the manager's fault, the other players' fault, my fault or whatever is pretty irrelevant really, the point is as an Everton player he did not produce the goods. If we make a profit it's not a total failure of a transfer, if we get him back and he scores loads then he hasn't been a failure, but right at this moment his Everton career has been an unmitigated disaster.

I've said before, I don't think we really do hold all the aces. If he wants to go, his extremely powerful agent wants him to go, and one of the richest and most powerful clubs in the world wants him, i'm not all that convinced we'll be standing firm. I'm also not sure we're really in a position to turn down an offer which brings us a book profit of £20m and risk getting back a player who a) doesn't want to be here, and b) may find playing for us just as difficult the second time round as he did the first time.
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I agree, we hold no aces.

If him and Mino tell us its PSG or nothing, what do we do? Stick him in the reserves and pay him millions a month while his value plummets? Bring him and back and have a non-committed player sulking his way through games and training?

So then its a case of getting the most back for a player, who flopped with us and who I doubt we have any desire to retain.

So no, we have no aces, we get what PSG are willing to give us, if that's our money back and a taste on top, that's the price.
 
MikelsGoat said:
I agree, we hold no aces.

If him and Mino tell us its PSG or nothing, what do we do? Stick him in the reserves and pay him millions a month while his value plummets? Bring him and back and have a non-committed player sulking his way through games and training?

So then its a case of getting the most back for a player, who flopped with us and who I doubt we have any desire to retain.

So no, we have no aces, we get what PSG are willing to give us, if that's our money back and a taste on top, that's the price.
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By your insane logic then if we got offered 5m by psg do we accept it then just so Kean doesn't come back and sulk?

He's our player, he has years on his contract, he's young, he's scoring goals, he's doing well for a team that WANT him. Of course we get to determine what we want for him.

Otherwise most transfers involving players that want to leave their clubs would all be buttons wouldn't they.
 

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