because it prevents him from having his cake and eating it. He can't go on loan til his contract is worth bogger all. Now he knows, he either stays with us and tries to get his career on track, or he gets sold. At the moment, he would probably turn down offers of a permanent move cos he thinks he's gonna bully us into letting him go on loan to psg, once he is disabused of this notion, he will start to behave
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2020/21 Moise Kean
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windymiller
Player Valuation: £60m
He's done less in an Everton shirt than Cenk Tosun.
Osamabindiesel
Player Valuation: £70m
It’s a lose lose situation, but at least if we stand our ground he may come around to a permanent sale somewhere. It’s less sackless than some of the other things we have done, so I am behind sending a message to Kean and PSG that this will not stand. They aren’t a Turkish club. They have the dough (and if FFP was a problem that’s their own fault for blowing 60 mil just now).
Gets sold to who? One of the teams queueing up to buy him now? We can effectively force him to stay but we can't force him to try; even if he tries we can't force him to be any more effective than he was first go around.
no, we can't force him. But he's got three years left on his deal.At his age, that is a lifetime. There is v little chance he throws away 3 years of his career, it's much more likely he will knuckle down.The alternative is he disappears to France for 3 years on loan and leaves for nothing
Ok, and if he knuckles down what chance is there that he's good enough?
My point is this "make an example" nonsense is cutting our nose off to spite our face. He hasn't looked good enough for the PL so far. If that's because he hasn't tried, then I doubt he'd try any harder if we kept him against his will; if he wasn't good enough he probably still won't be.
He's a young lad. He could very conceivably pick up a good salary for 3 years, get a move to a middling European club at 24/25 and get his career back on track. Don't underestimate players' ability to disappoint you, especially at this club!
Kev The Rat
Player Valuation: £70m
I disagree that age at 21, 3 years is a lifetime. if he was 26 then yes.
in your worst case scenario above, that is only slightly better than just letting him go on endless loans. If we rule out further loans, there is a fair chance if someone else comes in, eg Juventus with a £28m bid, he won't play silly buggers wanting to go on loan, more likely he'll jump at the chance of a permanent move
Are you prepared to quote your sources re the "fair chance" of wealthy suitors appearing out of thin air?
And paying his wages for 3 years is "only slightly better" than 3 x loan fees (assume a few million each) and 3 years of not paying his wages?!
Most certainly better options though. If PSG wanted him as much as he wants them then they’d have bought him already, they’re using the fact he wants to join them so bad to try get him on a loan. Pay the fee or he doesn’t join them. If another team doesn’t want to sign him then he stays and either throws his toys out the pram and ruins his career or he gets his head down and does his best.
hes 20 years old with a one goal in two scoring ratio for psg. There's no need for me to 'magic' suitors out of the air, it's just a question of the price
Someone might want to tell Brands that, we seem to have a squad full of them.
You are right , but on the other hand who plays a pair of strikers nowadays.
The days of Sharp and Heath / Gray or Lineker and Beardsley are well gone.
….bit like playing with 10 men having a forward who only gets involved in the box.
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