Moneyball. It is witchcraft.

[RaleighBlue]

It's possible. They're developing sabermetrics for basketball right now. Still very far off from baseball-level stats, but so is every other sport.

Football has three problems over basketball.

1. More players on the pitch. Differentiating 1 players effect from 11 is more difficult than 1 from 5
2. Multiple leagues. Adjusting for quality of opposition is difficult
3. Less counting stats. Basketball, for all its free-formness, still has a large sample size of counting stats. Football has tackles, goals, assists, and saves. And saves only applies to one position.

Four types of people care about moneyball and discuss it on forums:

1. Americans
2. Kopites
3. Crushingly dull virgins
4. Crushingly dull American Kopites.

5. @chicoazul

 

[ilikecheese]

None of them.

You cared about moneyball enough to post about it on a forum.

 

[chicoazul]

Football has three problems over basketball.

1. More players on the pitch. Differentiating 1 players effect from 11 is more difficult than 1 from 5
2. Multiple leagues. Adjusting for quality of opposition is difficult
3. Less counting stats. Basketball, for all its free-formness, still has a large sample size of counting stats. Football has tackles, goals, assists, and saves. And saves only applies to one position.

5. @chicoazul

Down with you Rorlee. Get that Confederate Flag down you racists.

You cared about moneyball enough to post about it on a forum.

I'm trying to help you. It's a service.

 

[mmmmsnouts]

Brentford is really big into using statistical analysis to build a squad, probably more so than anyone else. I think it's very possible to make a "Moneyball" approach work in the lower leagues where no one has 20x more money to spend than you (possible exception next year if Newcastle, Sunderland and Villa all go down). If Brentford ever made the Premier League, though, I think it would quickly fall down.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Four types of people care about moneyball and discuss it on forums:

1. Americans
2. Kopites
3. Crushingly dull virgins
4. Crushingly dull virgin kopites.

1 and 3 here, didn't reckon you for a closet virgin Kopite











Already knew you were crushingly dull though

 

[chicoazul]

Get your sleeves rolled up and get on Wall Street you wham chatting burger eating school shooting fatties.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Get your sleeves rolled up and get on Wall Street you wham chatting burger eating school shooting fatties.

I thought you were trying to help me get laid, or did I add in my own interpretation?

I'm trying to help you. It's a service.

 

[RaleighBlue]

Down with you Rorlee. Get that Confederate Flag down you racists.

Live in Seattle, mate.

 

[chicoazul]

Live in Seattle, mate.

West cost tart. You're nothing but a jarg Vancouver.

 

[chicoazul]

Seriously though what is the most offensive thing I can throw at an American that will guarantee bites?

Calling them Canadian?

 

[mezzrow]

American leagues are so utterly alien from football...they don't translate so well.

This. We are the Hungarian language of leagues.

John Henry brought someone else in and used Moneyball to lift the Curse of the Bambino.

(nods) In Theo We Trust. (genuflects)

Current working on a bigger, better curse.

We can bring in @mezzrow to discuss the suicide squeeze if you'd like

Not until we explain the infield fly rule.

Seriously though what is the most offensive thing I can throw at an American that will guarantee bites?

Calling them Canadian?

Hush, before I sic Trump on you. I'll tell him you've been saying nasty things about him and that you're just a bad guy in addition to being a potential immigrant, legal status pending. Once he gets you vetted out of the queue, the legality won't matter.

 

[ilikecheese]

Seriously though what is the most offensive thing I can throw at an American that will guarantee bites?

Calling them Canadian?

I think you're going to have to wait until the next American hope plays in the league.

 

[chicoazul]

I think you're going to have to wait until the next American hope plays in the league.

I want them to take the league by storm to corn all the anti USAers on here mostly.

 

[Tubey]

It doesn't work the same for football, because you buy players based on how they fit in a system, rather than on statistical average doing the same thing as the majority of the rest of the team.

Batters are basically always going to be batters, and pitchers will be pitchers - it's only their style that changes (a closing pitcher etc.), but ultimately you have three roles in that sport.

In football, you can have great stats as a striker in one particular team, but those stats will mean absolutely nothing if he goes to another team that don't play the same way. See Benteke at Liverpool right now for details.

So no, it doesn't work. It isn't moneyball to be smart with your money and spend to improve the squad to the system you want to play - that's just called making a smart signing.

 

[chicoazul]

It doesn't work the same for football, because you buy players based on how they fit in a system, rather than on statistical average doing the same thing as the majority of the rest of the team.

Batters are basically always going to be batters, and pitchers will be pitchers - it's only their style that changes (a closing pitcher etc.), but ultimately you have three roles in that sport.

In football, you can have great stats as a striker in one particular team, but those stats will mean absolutely nothing if he goes to another team that don't play the same way. See Benteke at Liverpool right now for details.

So no, it doesn't work. It isn't moneyball to be smart with your money and spend to improve the squad to the system you want to play - that's just called making a smart signing.

Which begs the question: was Lukaku a moneyball signing sir?