Chang Elephant
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It's difficult to understand the real intelligensia of the financial world. Before reading this thread, I honestly didn't know that Villa cutting back on spending is a sign that our board is well run. :blink:
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It's difficult to understand the real intelligensia of the financial world. Before reading this thread, I honestly didn't know that Villa cutting back on spending is a sign that our board is well run. :blink:
Matt Damon
Player Valuation: £60m
UEFA FINANCIAL FAIR PLAY REGULATIONS.
You REALLY need to read them before commenting further.
better tell a mr K Dalglish. he seems to be spending money .
Matt Damon
Player Valuation: £60m
Its obvious. If you can't measure the relative mess up that Lerner's made at Villa and the rest to Everton...
At a time when football in general's finances have been literally been out of control, means you'll never likely understand.
Or at least being able to acknowledge it.
our board could not run a car boot sale, eleven years of NO INVESTMENT prove this, and carping about other clubs finances will not change this.
Matt Damon
Player Valuation: £60m
That's because the RS's turnover is £140 million, and they're STAGGERING PAYMENT.
i.e. 8 million this year and 12 million in future years!
Plus they're selling off players this summer.
FFS. Its easy pointing at the RS, but there's more going on than that. That they HAVEN'T actually spent more than half that fee this summer for Henderson.
You know ZILCH. About football finance.
kenada_blue
Welcome to Barcelonaton FC
Decades mate.
Nothing is in place right this second, or going into next season, or the season after that. There's 2-3 years right there of NOTHING.
Youth Developement leads to player sales to keep the wheel spinning and not to actually win anything.
Financially and as business, the club is floating in the middle and is fine.
As a football club, the 5th most successful in English football, not being able to compete just to keep its head above water should be choking for fans. But I guess because the finanical bottom line seems fine, we just have to hope our league 2 strikers and gambles on injury hit transfers take us to the promise land.
As for Villa, they took the same page from the book of Chelsea and Citeh at the lower end of the spectrum to what Deloitte calls the - "A 'trophy asset' model - requiring ongoing investment in losses and delivering returns only in the form of capital growth on changes of ownership - remains prevalent as competitive pressure to win outweighs any desire to limit wage costs"
Do we have a desire to win or just to keep the banks off our back?
Head and heart.
get over yourself, i know this board, and previous ones, have invested little or nothing into the infrastructure of this club, just because you whinge about villa(who cares ffs?) doesn't mean a thing . i am only concerned with everton, and until a wage structure is brought in ACROSS EUROPE, little will change. its still fiddling while rome burns .
Matt Damon
Player Valuation: £60m
The FIRST STEP of WINNING is keeping the wolf from the door.
The SECOND STEP of WINNING is getting a collective group of TALENT together at the same time to win things
The THIRD STEP of WINNING is using that success to bring in investment to get the INFRASTRUCTURE in place quickly
The FOURTH STEP of WINNING is using that revenue to further improve and replace TALENT to further increase likelihood of ongoing success
SQUARING THE CIRCLE, they call that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle
Manchester United did it in the early 1990's and surpassed the RS with it.
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Chang Elephant
Forum God
But surely Everton's board is the one whose options have all been exhausted, who have no other choice than to sell...............this summer...............aren't they?
And why the heavy criticism of Lerner, does he extort scouting fees out of Villa?
bourneblue
Player Valuation: £10m
We are investing in the future can't see the wrong in that.
Lerners gamble has not paid off, villa must sell to reduce the wage bill .
To his credit he is doing just that and not following the pompey example of waiting till the wolves are at the door.
Lerners gamble has not paid off, villa must sell to reduce the wage bill .
To his credit he is doing just that and not following the pompey example of waiting till the wolves are at the door.
milks
I hate football
No....and I'll repeat this. NO, football transfer is paid cash upfront. Everything is offset over time; installment payments if you will. Usually the payment terms are paid over a period equating to the player contract terms. Both clubs then agree to announce the total deal value as it's invoiced and goes against that year's submitted accounts.
For example. Felliani. £15m. I would imagine, and I heard something along these lines, that Everton paid Liege £2m or £3m initially and have paid piecemeal towards the £15m target.
See also Demba Ba. West Ham 'paid' Hoffenheim £6m. Yet, as stated by out man ITK, Everton's proposed deal involves a nominal fee to West Ham and the continuation of the ongoing installments back to Germany.
This is how most teams, Liverpool included, afford huge transfers.
Matt Damon
Player Valuation: £60m
No he (Lerner) just calls them "management fees" of £ 8 MILLION a season
bourneblue
Player Valuation: £10m
Scouting fees, extortion ?
Have you proof of this ? If so then go straight to the inland revenue and let them deal with it.
I would 'if' i had the proof.
Have you proof of this ? If so then go straight to the inland revenue and let them deal with it.
I would 'if' i had the proof.
in eleven years, this board have not invested ONE PENNY into the infrastructure, we sell to keep the wolf from the door, due to their incopetance.
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