Moyes Potential Replacement

[BoysInBlue]

AVB didn't get them knocked out in the group stages.

They certainly wouldn't have won it under him though.

 

[Brennan]

They certainly wouldn't have won it under him though.

Debatable.

He got them further than Di Matteo managed the following season, against Barcelona and Chelsea all they did was defend extremely deep for 90 minutes. You don't need to be a master tactician to tell your players to do that. If Messi scores that penalty at the Nou Camp it's all over.

AVB has shown at Spurs that he's a very capable manager.

 

[sheeds]

Debatable.

He got them further than Di Matteo managed the following season, against Barcelona and Chelsea all they did was defend extremely deep for 90 minutes. You don't need to be a master tactician to tell your players to do that.

AVB has shown at Spurs that he's a very capable manager.

An example of a decent manager at the wrong club and another reason both why picking the right manager is so important and why it's so hard to judge managers superficially

 

[kenada_blue]

I could have won the CL with Chelsea, its not like he did anything really.

Im all for praise where praise is due, but come on.

Did something alright when they went down to 10 men against Barca, and started Ryan Bertrand in the final...

 

[BoysInBlue]

Debatable.

He got them further than Di Matteo managed the following season, against Barcelona and Chelsea all they did was defend extremely deep for 90 minutes. You don't need to be a master tactician to tell your players to do that. If Messi scores that penalty at the Nou Camp it's all over.

AVB has shown at Spurs that he's a very capable manager.

No doubting his abilities, but not debatable at Chelsea; the players were performing abysmally for him. It was only a late rally from Di Matteo that rescued the season and even then they only finished 5th. Without that late rally they'd have finished 6th/7th/8th. As it was they only got in this season's CL due to winning it.

The player power at Chelsea is so strong, it makes or breaks any manager there, regardless of ability.

Di Matteo benefited from being liked.

 

[FTY]

An example of a decent manager at the wrong club and another reason both why picking the right manager is so important and why it's so hard to judge managers superficially

If say, Martinez, took over over, would he inherit Moyes' scouting network/list or would he bring his own over from Wigan? If it's the second one, I doubt he would have been scouting the right quality of player considering his budget at Wigan.

 

[ToffeeMike]

No doubting his abilities, but not debatable at Chelsea; the players were performing abysmally for him. It was only a late rally from Di Matteo that rescued the season and even then they only finished 5th. Without that late rally they'd have finished 6th/7th/8th. As it was they only got in this season's CL due to winning it.

The player power at Chelsea is so strong, it makes or breaks any manager there, regardless of ability.

Di Matteo benefited from being liked.

There fans are pathetic, expect only success from the best managers in the world. They treated RDM, AVB and Benitez like s**t.

Despise that club.

 

[Timak]

No doubting his abilities, but not debatable at Chelsea; the players were performing abysmally for him. It was only a late rally from Di Matteo that rescued the season and even then they only finished 5th. Without that late rally they'd have finished 6th/7th/8th. As it was they only got in this season's CL due to winning it.

The player power at Chelsea is so strong, it makes or breaks any manager there, regardless of ability.

Di Matteo benefited from being liked.

Actually Chelsea were 5th when AVB was sacked http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17163246
And finished 6th under Di Matteo.
And got less points in the time he was in charge than Moyes did with Everton in the same period.

 

[sheeds]

Just on Di Matteo's popularity , I know we don't always trust he media but a little 2minute use of google has thrown up four stories (3 different main stream papers & a Internet site) describing him as unpopular. Now we don't have to believe the media but somebody was briefing them and it seems that maybe there is something in the stories ? Like I say people not have to believe me but it's not from the media I got stories he wasn't 'liked' when he was appointed .

Roberto Di Matteo has apologised to Chelsea's senior players in a series of one-on-one peace talks.

The Italian caretaker manager admitted serious mistakes had been made under Andre Villas-Boas as he urged John Terry, Frank Lampard, Didier Drogba and Ashley Cole to back him for the remainder of the season.

The four senior players welcomed Di Matteo's openness and all pledged to get behind him as Chelsea look to overturn a 3-1 deficit against Napoli in the Champions League on Tuesday - as well as progressing in the FA Cup and fighting for fourth in the Premier League.

None of those four Chelsea stalwarts had started Di Matteo's first match in charge, the 2-0 FA Cup win at Birmingham on Tuesday, with only Lampard coming on as a sub. But Di Matteo, who had been AVB's No.2, knew he had to get the senior pros on side, as they had played a key role in undermining the young Portuguese boss.

He called all four veterans into his office at Chelsea's Cobham training ground on Thursday before addressing the squad as a whole.

Despite being a Chelsea legend as a player, there have been suggestions that former West Brom chief Di Matteo has been an unpopular figure in the Stamford Bridge dressing room.




ROBERTO DI MATTEO is already facing a battle to win over his unsettled Chelsea stars.

Roberto Di Matteo has been put in charge at Stamford Bridge until the end of the season after the sacking of Andre Villas-Boas.

But Starsport can reveal he is struggling to impose himself with the players because he is so unpopular in the dressing room.

Despite being a former Blues player, the Italian has done little to get the squad on his side since his arrival last summer as assistant manager.

He is seen by many as being arrogant and aloof – and with owner Roman Abramovich only giving him the job until the end of the season, he is set to have his authority tested by the club’s powerful stars.




ROBERTO DI MATTEO is up against it already at Chelsea because players like him even LESS than Andre Villas-Boas.
Blues have appointed Di Matteo until the end of the season.

But the move will do little to improve morale.

A source said: “The players could not stand AVB because of his arrogance. But, if anything, they like Roberto even less.

“He’s just too cock-sure. They might unite behind him to start with but after a couple of bad results it will be just as bad, if not worse.

“It’s a shambles from top to bottom. They just don’t have a coach.

“There’s no one to take control of training, no one for the players to look to.”

Chelsea fans still like Di Matteo from his playing days, which were cut short by injury.

But after early success at MK Dons and winning promotion with West Brom, he was sacked by Baggies in 2011 after winning just 10 of 30 Prem games.

He was still out of work last summer when Villas-Boas drafted him in as his assistant.


In theory, Wednesday night saw Roberto Di Matteo complete the first of four steps needed to realize his transformation from unpopular fill-in to full-time Chelsea manager. In reality, he is far less than a quarter of the way there.

Yahoo! Sports understands that at some point over the past week, Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich made the decision that if Di Matteo, the former assistant who replaced the fired Andre Villas-Boas until the end of the season, wins the Champions League, he will remain in charge and be given an extended contract.
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[Brennan]

Actually Chelsea were 5th when AVB was sacked http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17163246
And finished 6th under Di Matteo.
And got less points in the time he was in charge than Moyes did with Everton in the same period.

Well in lad. STATS.

 

[Stend]

Can't believe people knocking Di Matteos CL win. Mourinho failed, Grant failed, Ancelotti failed. But MoatsGoat would have won it.

 

[Goat]

Can't believe people knocking Di Matteos CL win. Mourinho failed, Grant failed, Ancelotti failed. But MoatsGoat would have won it.

So your saying Di Matteo is a better Manager than Jose or Carlo?

I guess thats why hes in charge of Real and PSG.

Boss.

 

[Stend]

So your saying Di Matteo is a better Manager than Jose or Carlo?

I guess thats why hes in charge of Real and PSG.

Boss.

No that's your words.

You made it sound as though winning the champions league with Chelsea would be easy.

Mourinho, Angelotti. Both won it elsewhere but not at Chelsea.

 

[Brennan]

No that's your words.

You made it sound as though winning the champions league with Chelsea would be easy.

Mourinho, Angelotti. Both won it elsewhere but not at Chelsea.

Winning three games is hardly the same as leading them to the Champions League from the very start, as he proved by getting them knocked out at the group stage in a comparatively easy group.

 

[Stend]

Winning three games is hardly the same as leading them to the Champions League from the very start, as he proved by getting them knocked out at the group stage in a comparatively easy group.

I disagree. Last 3 games much harder opposition. You can't knock him for winning that trophy. He deserves credit. No other manager has achieved that there in numerous attempts.

Give him credit.