So when it comes to wigan the whole defence is at fault (even though they hardly fielded their first choice defence all season) but when Chico takes you to task about Everton legends, its all the fault of the other players. You're not making sense you're just making a noise to try and back your (proven) paper thin arguments.
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So when it comes to wigan the whole defence is at fault (even though they hardly fielded their first choice defence all season) but when Chico takes you to task about Everton legends, its all the fault of the other players. You're not making sense you're just making a noise to try and back your (proven) paper thin arguments.
That doesn't really back your argument of how great he was.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
Again, our teams in the 90s (the worst was 97/98) were a bit crap except the team of 95/96 (because of Kanchelskis and Limpar mainly). Ok, they were fine players but some of their teammates let them down.
Mogwai
The Hiphopopotamus Rhymenoceros
I don't understand your logic..... A gentleman's deal between moyes and Kenwright has what to do with a not even conceived deal between Martinez and Whelan?
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
Well their players weren't 35 or 38 years old were they?
Hey and Everton never get relegated in the 90s.
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Mogwai
The Hiphopopotamus Rhymenoceros
He does seem conceited in his views and wrong on so many levels... You could place him on the ignore list
Or make sense....
Darth Toffeeman
Player Valuation: £40m
Hard to judge managers/players as sometimes circumstances play a huge part.
I think Martinez is a promising manager. Turning down approches from Villa and Liverpool show's he must be doing something right. I do worry about the amount of goals Wigan ship though. Look at Pardew last year compared to this season. He has a vastly superior fan base and more potential to suceed at Newcastle but they could and maybe should have been relegated this season.
Regarding whom we should sign/avoid. Pienaar for Everton is excellent. Pienaar for Spurs, garbage. Sometimes people just fit a place.
I think Martinez is a promising manager. Turning down approches from Villa and Liverpool show's he must be doing something right. I do worry about the amount of goals Wigan ship though. Look at Pardew last year compared to this season. He has a vastly superior fan base and more potential to suceed at Newcastle but they could and maybe should have been relegated this season.
Regarding whom we should sign/avoid. Pienaar for Everton is excellent. Pienaar for Spurs, garbage. Sometimes people just fit a place.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
I do not have to defend Moyes. He was great. His results/records in the league proved that.
Whoever we get in are going to have pros and cons. I'm probably in with the majority in that I'm not so sure who the right man is. Saying that it's prudent option because not one of us knows how it will roll with that new man as manager. It is going to be a tough ask to reproduce the consistency of Moyes and his proficiency in the transfer market which was key for us in the predicament we are in as a club.
There's a tendency to focus on the negatives of all of the candidates for the role and that's heightened more by those who for some reason think they know who the right man is and have gone all in behind them. It's foolish. There was not one reference to Vitor Pereira on this forum previous to May, go on search it. Only a handful of mentions of Rangnick too. So how much do you really know? Or do you just like the fact they're something unknown and different and are seduced by it?
Similar for Martinez, he's just got a team relegated and more worryingly for me four of his key players have been allowed to run down their contracts and leave for free this summer.
It's easy to focus on the negatives but whoever gets the job will need the full backing of the fanbase. None of this "he isn't who I wanted" sh*t. This is Everton not Britain's Got Talent. We've got a really important season or two coming up that will effect our short and immediate future, the last thing we need is a fractured fanbase even further.
There's a tendency to focus on the negatives of all of the candidates for the role and that's heightened more by those who for some reason think they know who the right man is and have gone all in behind them. It's foolish. There was not one reference to Vitor Pereira on this forum previous to May, go on search it. Only a handful of mentions of Rangnick too. So how much do you really know? Or do you just like the fact they're something unknown and different and are seduced by it?
Similar for Martinez, he's just got a team relegated and more worryingly for me four of his key players have been allowed to run down their contracts and leave for free this summer.
It's easy to focus on the negatives but whoever gets the job will need the full backing of the fanbase. None of this "he isn't who I wanted" sh*t. This is Everton not Britain's Got Talent. We've got a really important season or two coming up that will effect our short and immediate future, the last thing we need is a fractured fanbase even further.
He does seem conceited in his views and wrong on so many levels... You could place him on the ignore list
Or make sense....
I know mate I was hoping Chico would swing back in and give my head a rest.
Mate I went home and away for a long period of that. Equally sh*te were the 94 and 98 teams. But that's my point, we can't sneer at players brought in from relegated clubs.
Mogwai
The Hiphopopotamus Rhymenoceros
I know how you feel.... Been through it recently myself.... Maybe we should set up a AA equivalent meeting...
He won't listen, he will just write some nonsense that will take you ten minutes to workout what he's answering.
Hahaha. I'm comfortable being your wingman mate but I can't match your intensity.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
I just don't want their defenders.
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