Moyes Potential Replacement

[BoysInBlue]

Periera wants to leave because Porto's board are a bunch of crooks basically.

The phrase, 'out of the frying pan, into the fire' springs to mind.

 

[hktoffee]

Same as price as Per Kroldrup I believe. All managers make cock ups.

We lost £1.5m on Kroldrup. How much did Wigan get by selling that striker?

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Bloody hell Kendall, is he on the ale again?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22525518

Duncan Ferguson 'perfect' for Everton job, says Howard Kendall

Former Everton boss Howard Kendall believes Goodison Park favourite Duncan Ferguson would be "perfect" to succeed David Moyes as the team's next manager.

He told BBC Sport: "I think he would be the perfect man and I would really like to see him being given the chance.

"He is the type of character who could handle the pressure. He would have a presence and it really could work with someone perhaps a little bit older alongside him.

"Duncan has pledged his loyalty to Everton by coming back. He knows the game and would prove a very good choice."

 

[WuTangToffee]

Nonsense.

You want to hire Pereira because he has an exotic name and manages in Portugal. Have you ever even watched a Portugese league game ?

You wants to hire Martinez because he has relegation dog fight experience an exotic name & manages a side getting relegated in 4 hours time. Have you ever watched Wigan?

Seriously though you're ignorance on the matter is pretty pathetic, guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks though aye, beautiful British xenophobia at the helm again.

Course I've watched Portuguese games they're alot better than Premier League games, watched quite a few of Pacos games this year there an absolutely amazing team to watch, only have a capacity of 5,000.

 

[Brennan]

Hes my biggest fear.

I know people will say but Bily, but still, Moyes managed to buy tosh like Bily and still maintain a league postion.

Yeah but Wigan have tiny wages compared to us, they've spent -£11m net since Martinez took over, and they're a small club who can't attract good players easily.

Just makes me laugh how people slate Martinez because his team are getting relegated, a team who would not look out of place in the Championship. The more important thing for me is that he took those crappy players and filled them with the belief that they were good enough to go out there and win an FA Cup. Something which Moyes couldn't do even with infinitely better players.

People saying how crappy Wigan's defence has been this season should also look at the ridiculous amount of defensive injuries they've had. They have three of their best defensive players out injured right now, and have had a few more over the course of the season. When that happens to an already low quality squad you're obviously going to struggle.

If Martinez can keep Wigan up with that utter s***e team i have no doubt he'd be just fine with ours.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Some people have massively unrealistic expectations, and clearly do not understand what we had in Moyes and how rare is was to do what he did.

I fear some fans are in for some major disappointments ahead.

We will only 'move forward' with money. End of. We could appoint the ghost of Sir Alf Ramsay, it won't matter at all.

The best we can hope for is a good coach who can follow Moyes blueprint, not make too many changes, hopefully not have to sell too much of the squad, and next season, aim to stay in the top 7/8.

This idea that somebody is going to come in and 'improve' on what Moyes did is just laughable. If there was someone out there better than Moyes, they would have got the Man Utd job.

I'm afraid that about sums it up.

Without change in the boardroom the odds on any form of sustained improvement on what Moyes managed is about as likely as Bill finding a Sheikh who loves his Uncle Cyril stories.

 

[Brennan]

You wants to hire Martinez because he has relegation dog fight experience an exotic name & manages a side getting relegated in 4 hours time. Have you ever watched Wigan?

Seriously though you're ignorance on the matter is pretty pathetic, guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks though aye, beautiful British xenophobia at the helm again.

Course I've watched Portuguese games they're alot better than Premier League games, watched quite a few of Pacos games this year there an absolutely amazing team to watch, only have a capacity of 5,000.

I would advise you not to start throwing around accusations like that.

 

[LocalNative]

Getting Martinez wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but surely there has got to be a bigger manager out there who would be tempted to manage us? We are 2-3 great players away from the Champions League.

 

[hktoffee]

Bloody hell Kendall, is he on the ale again?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22525518

Kendell is mad. I still remembered that goal from Farelly.

 

[BoysInBlue]

Joe Royle Premier League record managing Oldham, back when there were 22 teams in the top flight.

1991/92 - finished 17th.
1992/93 - finished 19th.
1993/94 - finished 21st (RELEGATED).

Six months later he got the Everton job. Kept us up when we were dead & buried, and won us the FA Cup.

First & only full season as Everton manager, 1995/96 - finished 6th.

*This is in support of Martinez, not suggesting Royle come back.

 

[Brennan]

Joe Royle Premier League record managing Oldham, back when there were 22 teams in the top flight.

1991/92 - finished 17th.
1992/93 - finished 19th.
1993/94 - finished 21st (RELEGATED).

Six months later he got the Everton job. Kept us up when we were dead & buried, and won us the FA Cup.

First & only full season as Everton manager, 1995/96 - finished 6th.

BOOM.

 

[Jags..class]

Marcelo Bielsa.

Super, super coach.

Players improve for him automatically.

Players who have played for him always say he ws best coach they ever played for.

agressively attacking football.

Consistently promotes from youth team.

Consistently done it with very little funds.

This is the guy who should get it. Way better than Martínez.

Yeah i'm a big fan and he got a good eye just like Moyes, would be made up with him but no chance. Kenwright wont even have heard of him.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Joe Royle Premier League record managing Oldham, back when there were 22 teams in the top flight.

1991/92 - finished 17th.
1992/93 - finished 19th.
1993/94 - finished 21st (RELEGATED).

Six months later he got the Everton job. Kept us up when we were dead & buried, and won us the FA Cup.

First & only full season as Everton manager, 1995/96 - finished 6th.

Positivity seems to be frowned upon these parts though.

 

[roydo]

All this "what he did at Wigan" "what he did in Portugal" is doing my head in. On that logic, Utd wouldnt have gone anywhere Moyes. What they did was look at what he did here, how he did it, and saw it being applied to them. Certainly didnt look hat his CL win rate, or his trophy cabinet, or his record away at big clubs etc etc etc.

I look at Martinez, and like what he does, how his teams set up, how he seems to know the transfer market ok, and can see him bringing some of that to a bigger club, with better resources.

 

[billycopper]

Yeah but Wigan have tiny wages compared to us, they've spent -£11m net since Martinez took over, and they're a small club who can't attract good players easily.

Just makes me laugh how people slate Martinez because his team are getting relegated, a team who would not look out of place in the Championship. The more important thing for me is that he took those crappy players and filled them with the belief that they were good enough to go out there and win an FA Cup. Something which Moyes couldn't do even with infinitely better players.

People saying how crappy Wigan's defence has been this season should also look at the ridiculous amount of defensive injuries they've had. They have three of their best defensive players out injured right now, and have had a few more over the course of the season. When that happens to an already low quality squad you're obviously going to struggle.

If Martinez can keep Wigan up with that utter s***e team i have no doubt he'd be just fine with ours.

Yet they were able to keep City at bay without having to resort to parking the bus. So why can't they do it every week? Year after year they've had one of the leakiest defences in the league and regularly get pummelled, especially by United.