Moyes Potential Replacement

[Del]

Are we saying that no other manager in the world avalible to us could get a team with Fellaini,Baines,Kev,Osman,Jelavic,Coleman,Jags,Barkley,Pienaar and Gibson to play a better brand of football

 

[dholliday]

Get Howard Kendall in. He knows the club inside out, has actually won stuff, is available and probably quite cheap.

 

[micknick]

Some of the stuff we played this season was some of the best football played by anyone in the league.

But we only play sh1te football eh

 

[formerly manx toffee]

Get Howard Kendall in. He knows the club inside out, has actually won stuff, is available and probably quite cheap.

But maybe a little tipsy on a Saturday evening

 

[chicoazul]

Some of the stuff we played this season was some of the best football played by anyone in the league.

But we only play sh1te football eh

Which makes our complete capitulation all the more frustrating. How are Wigan putting us out at home? Or Norwich turning us over. Why are we playing utter sh*te for just on three months now?

 

[Essex Blue]

Martinez would be a bad appointment, he isn't even as good as Moyes, and the general idea is to improve on what you have.

It's getting tedious after 11 years, but don't let that blind you as to who is the better manager, Moyes is better than Martinez and we need to improve upon Moyes. Martinez would be a step backwards.

 

[EvertruvianMan]

Some of the stuff we played this season was some of the best football played by anyone in the league.

But we only play sh1te football eh

We played some ok stuff early in the season and then have seemed to tail off living off past performances. "Your only as good as your last game" and for a couple of months now we have been putting some of the worst performances in the league in. We are more consistently bad than we are good. Thats the issue.
Building a side around Gibson is suicide because he is at best an every other game player. We dont have a made to measure Carsley type to rely on. And Cahill hasnt been replaced. One big unit cant cover for an entire side and that frustration flows from Fellaini more and more regularly.
Benefit is we know we are miles off and that knowledge should mean we get cut and get rid and then look to improve - that we were in for a CM in january regardless of how it panned out shows someone knows what we need and where.
A good eleven is great but when we got fourth we were amazingly lucky with injuries and the wheels still fell off in February. We need a bit of rotation option, no point rotating versatility. Osman right side, Osman left side, Osman deep middle, Osman AM actually means playing Osman all the time. Its not a criticism specific to him, its a sign we dont have even average cover anywhere.

 

[electricblue]

Martinez would be a bad appointment, he isn't even as good as Moyes, and the general idea is to improve on what you have.

It's getting tedious after 11 years, but don't let that blind you as to who is the better manager, Moyes is better than Martinez and we need to improve upon Moyes. Martinez would be a step backwards.

I'm not beating the Martinez drum but that's a strange point to make after Martinez outclassed Moyes tactically today.

 

[toffee-fellaini]

Martinez would be a bad appointment, he isn't even as good as Moyes, and the general idea is to improve on what you have.

It's getting tedious after 11 years, but don't let that blind you as to who is the better manager, Moyes is better than Martinez and we need to improve upon Moyes. Martinez would be a step backwards.

At least Martinez doesn't just play 4-5-1 every game. Moyes just tells the CBs to hoof it. Great tactics.

 

[EvertruvianMan]

Which makes our complete capitulation all the more frustrating. How are Wigan putting us out at home? Or Norwich turning us over. Why are we playing utter sh*te for just on three months now?

How did we fold versus Reading? Give the win away against Fulham? Not annihilate Newcastle? Gift a point to Norwich?
We dont have enough cutting edge, the plan B midfield has been covering for a misfiring strike force and the secret about plan B is it is plan B because it is less successful than plan A. That we have covered for as long as we have is testament to the desire in the tiny squad but eventually the tank runs empty and relying on wastrels means a bad dip in form.

 

[toffee-fellaini]

Phil Neville is 8/1 to be our next manager. If this happens I will cry.

 

[Essex Blue]

I'm not beating the Martinez drum but that's a strange point to make after Martinez outclassed Moyes tactically today.

Not really, giant killings happen all the time.

It depends what you want to base your comparison on, do you want to base it on overall performance in the league over the last couple of years, or do you want to base it all on what happened today?

I think most other clubs would pick Moyes ahead of Martinez, but both are in a 'no lose' position in the clubs that they manage, both managers do a good job of wrapping up failure as success.

 

[chicoazul]

How did we fold versus Reading? Give the win away against Fulham? Not annihilate Newcastle? Gift a point to Norwich?
We dont have enough cutting edge, the plan B midfield has been covering for a misfiring strike force and the secret about plan B is it is plan B because it is less successful than plan A. That we have covered for as long as we have is testament to the desire in the tiny squad but eventually the tank runs empty and relying on wastrels means a bad dip in form.

We've also been guilty of poor team selection, tactics and substitution mate which is what I was referring to. I also think failure to add to the squad in January is costing us dear as we needed some fresh faces to keep momentum.

 

[harry]

Not really, giant killings happen all the time.

It depends what you want to base your comparison on, do you want to base it on overall performance in the league over the last couple of years, or do you want to base it all on what happened today?

I think most other clubs would pick Moyes ahead of Martinez, but both are in a 'no lose' position in the clubs that they manage.

If you are going to do a head to head you have to base it on more than that.

 

[billycopper]

I'm not beating the Martinez drum but that's a strange point to make after Martinez outclassed Moyes tactically today.

The big concern with Martinez is that his teams languish at the bottom of the table and only perform when their survival is under threat. It suggests that they're too relaxed or under-motivated. They play some good football but they regularly suffer heavy defeats and Martinez's win record is only 28.22% at Wigan compared to 41.93 for Moyes.