Moyes Potential Replacement

[Del]

Some of the stuff we played this season was some of the best football played by anyone in the league.

But we only play sh1te football eh

Mick we played some good stuff the first 2 months of the season

We have been piss poor for a while now

All day our tactic was knocking a dia ball over the top to Fellaini/Vic and all day it did not work

Moyes has one way of playing and if that fails well hey he will just carry on regardless

 

[Essex Blue]

Wigan were absolutely shocking against Liverpool at home just last week, Martinez' heaviest defeats are even worse than Moyes', with him overseeing a 9-1 defeat at Spurs. I think it might be time for Moyes to go, but I'd say Moyes is a better manager than Martinez.

 

[electricblue]

The big concern with Martinez is that his teams languish at the bottom of the table and only perform when their survival is under threat. It suggests that they're too relaxed or under-motivated. They play some good football but they regularly suffer heavy defeats and Martinez's win record is only 28.22% at Wigan compared to 41.93 for Moyes.

Wigan were absolutely shocking against Liverpool at home just last week, Martinez' heaviest defeats are even worse than Moyes', with him overseeing a 9-1 defeat at Spurs. I think it might be time for Moyes to go, but I'd say Moyes is a better manager than Martinez.

Not disagreeing with any of that but they were very impressive today. They do concede too many goals though which is why they are always fighting relegation.

 

[thebluefox]

Wigan were absolutely shocking against Liverpool at home just last week, Martinez' heaviest defeats are even worse than Moyes', with him overseeing a 9-1 defeat at Spurs. I think it might be time for Moyes to go, but I'd say Moyes is a better manager than Martinez.

sweet dreams lad , get that gas leak in your ken fixed asap

 

[banno]

Wigan were absolutely shocking against Liverpool at home just last week, Martinez' heaviest defeats are even worse than Moyes', with him overseeing a 9-1 defeat at Spurs. I think it might be time for Moyes to go, but I'd say Moyes is a better manager than Martinez.

How much money has Martinez had to spend compared with Moyes. Honest question. Don't quote net spend as moyes has had from the top of my head the Rooney money and Lescott money to be able to build a team. Has Martinez had this luxury?

 

[billycopper]

Not disagreeing with any of that but they were very impressive today. They do concede too many goals though which is why they are always fighting relegation.

To paraphrase Alan Pardew, Martinez's team gave us a "footballing lesson" today. In an ideal world Moyes would learn from it and use it for us in future. Unfortunately, I think the manager will more likely put it down to 'luck' and 'desire' and carry on as he always does.

 

[potato]

someone cheap with little or no experience.

paul gerrard anyone?

 

[noharmdone]

To paraphrase Alan Pardew, Martinez's team gave us a "footballing lesson" today. In an ideal world Moyes would learn from it and use it for us in future. Unfortunately, I think the manager will more likely put it down to 'luck' and 'desire' and carry on as he always does.

Very good point.
What if City batter us next week ? Desire ??

 

[Essex Blue]

How much money has Martinez had to spend compared with Moyes. Honest question. Don't quote net spend as moyes has had from the top of my head the Rooney money and Lescott money to be able to build a team. Has Martinez had this luxury?

I'm not one of these 'net spend' blerts, if you're going to go down that route then you should make the comparison based on your players' current value. There's no point in referring to Leighton Baines as a 6million pound player anymore, because he is worth triple that! So I don't subscribe to the default 'net spend' excuse.

Martinez has had some money to spend and like many managers hasn't always spent it well. His Wigan teams haven't really improved, they've stayed at the same crap level as when he arrived. They're through to a Semi-Final after beating an Everton side that didn't have a central midfield for half the game. Big deal, crap teams get through to Semi-Finals all the time.

 

[dannyboy]

To paraphrase Alan Pardew, Martinez's team gave us a "footballing lesson" today. In an ideal world Moyes would learn from it and use it for us in future. Unfortunately, I think the manager will more likely put it down to 'luck' and 'desire' and carry on as he always does.

I remember us slaughtering Newcastle in the first half at Goodison this year with free flowing football. For every performance Wigan put in like that they're capable of 5 on the spin where they look absolutely clueless.

As I've stated previously my main reservation with Martinez is there's been no improvement to their situation. Steve Bruce managed to get them to mid table safety, Martinez hasn't.

 

[harry]

I'm not one of these 'net spend' blerts, if you're going to go down that route then you should make the comparison based on your players' current value. There's no point in referring to Leighton Baines as a 6million pound player anymore, because he is worth triple that! So I don't subscribe to the default 'net spend' excuse.

Martinez has had some money to spend and like many managers hasn't always spent it well. His Wigan teams haven't really improved, they've stayed at the same crap level as when he arrived. They're through to a Semi-Final after beating an Everton side that didn't have a central midfield for half the game. Big deal, crap teams get through to Semi-Finals all the time.

But isn't it because of our crap manager that we didn't have a central midfield for half the game?.

 

[banno]

I'm not one of these 'net spend' blerts, if you're going to go down that route then you should make the comparison based on your players' current value. There's no point in referring to Leighton Baines as a 6million pound player anymore, because he is worth triple that! So I don't subscribe to the default 'net spend' excuse.

Martinez has had some money to spend and like many managers hasn't always spent it well. His Wigan teams haven't really improved, they've stayed at the same crap level as when he arrived. They're through to a Semi-Final after beating an Everton side that didn't have a central midfield for half the game. Big deal, crap teams get through to Semi-Finals all the time.

Keep your stilettos on Trev it was a genuine question with no hidden agenda..........chill man

 

[Essex Blue]

But isn't it because of our crap manager that we didn't have a central midfield for half the game?.

Yeah, it was. Although not strengthening in January played its part. I'm just making the point that I think Moyes is a better manager than Martinez. Martinez might bring a change, but I doubt he would bring an improvement.

 

[Essex Blue]

Keep your stilettos on Trev it was a genuine question with no hidden agenda..........chill man

Believe me I'm more chilled than I should be, lol. Soz if the language was a bit crude, but it was written in a mellow tone

 

[banno]

Believe me I'm more chilled than I should be, lol. Soz if the language was a bit crude, but it was written in a mellow tone

Thats OK mate no probs. Where in essex you from, I spent 12 pleasant years down there.