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Moyes sacked by United

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I'll cut Moyes some slack when he shows a degree of humility.

A few words saying in hindsight he should have grasped the nettle and been bolder that his attitude post Goodison was crass that he regrets not appreciating fully what EFC gave him.

Doubtless years down the line when he's looking for work the penny will drop and it'll be a snippet in the Echo.
 
hullefc said:
this bit in his statement made me laugh, "I have always believed that a manager never stops learning during his career". Sorry Davey you stopped learning your trade about 4 years ago.
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haha, yes...so true. Our attack became so predictable during his final 2 or 3 years, as did our inevitable losses away to the glamour sides.

He should go to the Bundesliga. Will do him some good, and I think he could genuinely help one of those clubs who fancy challenging the big 2.
 
angrysoba said:
Big softie that I am, I feel very sorry for Moyes.

I know he upset a lot of people with his stupid comments while he was not even out the door, but he did well for the club and I don't think we should just dismiss that record in a fit of gleeful spite.

It must be pretty awful for him now.

There you go. You can all take the piss now if you like.
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Bugger that! He was very poor in his decision-making and communication skills, and yet is receiving the kind of pay-off most of us will never earn in a lifetime.

The massive wastes of money on the Rooney contract (and the utterly stupid decision to give him added player power), plus the 60m+ dashed out on two players who've hardly made an impact, is alone enough to damn him, along with the results.


Like Roy Hodgson, some managers are decent but find their limit very quickly when in charge of an ambitious club. He reached his limit with us around 2011. Thanks for all his great work and all that, but his time is now somewhere else.

#astonvilla
 
Kev The Rat said:
Scholes taking training at Carrington today with Giggs, Butt and Neville. Scholes return a mere day after Moyes removal gives the clearest indication yet that this was a class of 92 orchestrated coup, with the Glazers merely doing their bidding.
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It's looking that way.

How was Neville not sent packing along with Moyes and Round?

No doubt Golden Balls will be called in to add his ubiquity to proceedings.

And if United are impressive in the last few games of the season then you can bet the Daily Mail and talkSPORT among others will start a bandwagon rolling to get them the job on a permanent basis.
 
Russel Brand's thoughts

http://www.theguardian.com/global/b...ford-ferguson-moyes-manchester-united-tragedy

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David Moyes's face has now experienced the fate for which it looks like it was designed. The deep grooves of grief in his brow, his sunken, woeful eyes and dry parched lips a perspicacious sculpture carved in anticipation of this slap of indignity.


Ferguson's selection of the "chosen one" now looks less like John the Baptist heralding Christ and more like what I would do if invited to select my ex's next partner; the mendacious dispatch of a castrated chump to grimly jiggle with futile pumps upon Man United's bone-dry, trophy-bare mound. Moyes, a name that, let's face it, sounds like a Yiddish word for eunuch, has endured 317 days of celibacy, whilst at Everton his former paramour, under the beguiling matador Martínez, is likely to claim the final Champions League place.

Old Trafford, once the theatre of dreams, is now the setting for a tragedy of unfulfilled expectations. The Glazers must've expected that they were getting a wee, ginger, fledgling Ferguson; David Moyes surely imagined that the great day had come after years of stability and prudence at Goodison Park, frugally guarding the Toffees, he was finally to be given the reigns of the all-conquering devils. The expectations of the United players I query. Perhaps a dressing room of potent alphas for decades rendered beta, shackled by the Bordeaux-stained Uncle Joe, sensed that the new incumbent would not be so ferocious with the boot kicking and the hair-drying and, like over-parented teens suddenly in the care of clammy-palmed au pair, decided to kick up a bit of a fuss.

And now from this truculent gaggle of malcontents Ryan Giggs has emerged to lead United into the anti-climactic damp spasm that concludes this season of dismal failure. Giggs, whose untapped managerial prowess evaded Ferguson when he was asked to nominate a successor, the nearest approximation of an Anfield boot-room appointment considered instead to be the translucent Moyes, a pale imitation of himself, so pale in fact his impotent palpitations could be witnessed on a vascular level as United throbbed to a final flaccid loss at Goodison Park.

There is something ominous about the power shift that seems to be occurring as the two great, red dynasties of the north again appear to be exchanging destinies, the Liverbird once more upon its perch, the devils cast once more into hell. These cities locked in grievous conflict since the Mancs burrowed a canal to bypass Liverpool's docks, in the footballing deck these rival reds, the hearts of Liverpool and diamonds of Manchester can never share the power.

In all likelihood Ferguson's immediate successor could never be more than a peppery sorbet to cleanse the palate after decades of glorious indulgence. Now the job of following sir Alex is done and the far more favourable position of David Moyes' heir is vacant. Any son of a great man knows a margin is required, some respite from the preceding magnificence. For a moment
Manchester United, its board, owners, players and fans, were willing to yield so wholeheartedly to the myth of Ferguson's greatness that they believed he could endow with a benevolent swipe of his claymore, greatness upon his "chosen one".


Moyes' potency was dependent on Ferguson's patronage. It appears though that Ferguson's personal mythology superseded his tribal ties and he nominated not an heir who could carry on his legacy but one who would stumble and stoop and in so doing add greater emphasis to his own already staggering achievements. Perhaps Ferguson the master manager and great socialist recorded his only real failure subsequent to his tenure.
After all what is it that we're cheering for on our sofas or in the stands? What causes the heart to soar and the eyes to tear? The players and managers move on when the time comes or the money goes. The chairmen and the boards drift with the Dow Jones, even the sanctity of the space, the pasture of the green cathedral can be turfed up and rebadged as Emirate or Etihad.

What is it then that is United? Who do we sing those songs for? In whose name do we curse or chant? It is the union itself that is sacred. Every single component of the game is a commodity. The players, the pitches, the shirts, the gel they put in their hair. But no one can pay me to support another team. No oligarch can bring me to The Bridge or wring out the claret and blue from my veins.

Way down deep in our folk memory, deeper than the canal that bypassed Liverpool, deeper than the spilled blood between Millwall and West Ham or Celtic and Rangers, in a place we cannot name, in words that cannot be spoken, only sung, we know, we know that we are one. Great men leave and lesser men fall but the game, the game belongs to us all.
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http://www.theguardian.com/football/david-moyes
 

I do feel a bit sorry for moyes now actually. He was very probably bullied out of the club, but then he could have chosen not to go there in the first place, and surely if he can't command the respect of the players then that's his responsibility as well.
 
You could tell that some of the players didn't play for Moyes, what if they don't like the next manager, are they going to put down tools again.
 

What's Moyes got in common with Michael Jackson ?

Neither of them will play Giggs again....





Moyes has already secured himself a job with sky TV...
H fits his first dish on Monday.





I'm done here xx
 
Some of the stories coming out now he's gone, prove that the old guard at United simply weren't having him from Day 1.

They doubted his pedigree and credentials for the job and he exacerbated that by cleaning out the backroom of the reigning Champions to replace them Q tip Round & crew ffs.

That said, he should have taken a leaf out of his predecessors book and slung the lead dissenters out the door once they started to try and undermine him.

His demise was both predictable and excruciating to watch at times. He'll be at the skunks before the Summers out..........
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Some of the stories coming out now he's gone, prove that the old guard at United simply weren't having him from Day 1.

They doubted his pedigree and credentials for the job and he exacerbated that by cleaning out the backroom of the reigning Champions to replace them Q tip Round & crew ffs.
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Seems to me Wee Davey's problem was he didn't clear enough of the buggers out.

Giggs seems to have been a brooding presence all during Moysie's time there.

And I bet Neville didn't have his back when the knives were coming out......too blooming busy buying into all the "Class of '92" bollox.

He should have fooked Giggs and Butt out along with the rest of them.


Let's face it....any man who would shag his own brother's wife is no good.
 

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