KaiserEFC
Player Valuation: £70m
What do you make of Van Aanholt mate? always looks quite decent when I watch him
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Moyes to Sunderland
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Sunderland afc
Player Valuation: £8m
All in all I like him . Not the best in defence but does a job and always comes up with goals.
mmmmsnouts
Player Valuation: £40m
Ask for Pickford and offer Jags to partially offset the price. He needs money and players, we need a keeper. Sorted.
Come on. There is a lot to hit Moyes at. THIS YEAR we were told that EVERY single Premier League team would have 60m MORE this year than last, yet they are saying they are completely cash strapped? Thats about as disingenuous as you can be to anyone, much less a manager.Sunderland manager David Moyes: I was misled over January transfer cash and sale of the club
- Sunderland will have no cash to spend in January as they try to avoid relegation
- David Moyes says he was unaware that owner Ellis Short planned to sell club
- He would have thought twice about taking on Sunderland, had he known issues
- Jan Kirchhoff will be sidelined for at least two months to worsen the situation
David Moyes says he would have thought twice about taking the Sunderland job had he known there would be no money to spend next month and that owner Ellis Short wanted to sell the club.
The former Manchester United manager, who took over at the Stadium of Light in late July, has revealed American billionaire Short did not inform him of his intention to sell.
Moyes also claimed promises about new year investment have been broken, leaving him no means of bringing in players to cover a spate of serious injuries.
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Sunderland manager David Moyes says he was not aware the club was set to be sold
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Moyes has been told he will have no cash to bring players in during the January window
When he arrived, Moyes repeatedly spoke of 'guarantees' made by Short with regard to improving the Sunderland squad.
But the owner has since told his manager that cash will not be available next month — and Moyes isn't happy.
'Sunderland always had an appeal to me, but if I had known about the situation I would have needed to look at it in a different way,' he said.
'I would have had to think a lot more about it, because at the end of the day I want to manage in the Premier League.
'I did not know the club could be going up for sale, I was not made aware of that before. I didn't see us having no money (in January). Even in the summer I knew what we were spending was small in comparison — and I said that to the owner.
'But I hoped it would be a short period and we would then have the next period (January) to get things done. That has shown itself not to be the case.
'I'm disappointed that I will not be able to do some work in January and try and build on what we've done.'
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Ellis Short is set to sell Sunderland and as a buyer is sought funds will not be available
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Moyes cannot understand relegation-threatened Sunderland's reluctance to spend
Moyes was dealt another blow on Friday with news that midfielder Jan Kirchhoff will be sidelined for at least two months with a torn cartilage, joining long-term absentees Duncan Watmore, Lee Cattermole, Paddy McNair and Lynden Gooch on the sidelines.
That being the case, he cannot understand the reluctance to spend, especially given that the club's top-flight status will depend on it.
'After the Kirchhoff injury I feel like saying, "Come on, wait a minute",' he said.
'The way the money levels have gone in the Premier League, if you want to be there then you need a bit of help. I would hope that we can find a way of giving us a chance of having a go at it.'
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Black Cats star Jan Kirchhoff is sidelined for at least two months with a torn cartilage
Moyes, whose bottom-placed team entertain Watford on Saturday afternoon, would have every right to quit given developments of the past week, during which chief executive Martin Bain has revealed that Short is open to offers for the club and that transfer funds are 'very, very limited'.
But Moyes said: 'I have not been tempted to walk because I saw some steel from the players and a belief in what they are doing.
'So I have thought to myself, "I came here to do a job and the first job is to keep us up". Other managers have done it and I have to as well — but my task might be slightly harder. After that I always said the bigger job was to build the club up.
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Sunderland players show their dejection during Wednesday night's home defeat by Chelsea
'I find that (Short wanting to sell) difficult because I was saying I have come here to improve the club.
'So there is a frustration with it but I am going to stand up, stick my chest out and get on with it. I have dealt with it in my head and I'm going to fight for it and I expect everyone else at the club to do the same.
'I have a lot of respect for the chief executive who was big and brave enough to say it how it is to the supporters and everyone here.
'So if we can get everyone pulling together and say, "Come on, you're in it now, this is what we've got", sometimes that can galvanise you as well. That's what we have to try and do.'
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I reckon we'll go back for Kone next month and we'll get him.
They have no money for new players and if the squad stays the same as it is they are virtually down and they know it. Kone clearly doesn't want to be there so they might as well flog him for a high fee and use the money to buy badly-needed reinforcements. Koeman clearly wanted him because Moyes even admitted Kenwright had been in touch wanting to do a deal. It's unlikely we'll prise away Van Djik so I imagine we'll try again for this fella and this time Sunderland will be happy to let us take him providing the offer is good.
They have no money for new players and if the squad stays the same as it is they are virtually down and they know it. Kone clearly doesn't want to be there so they might as well flog him for a high fee and use the money to buy badly-needed reinforcements. Koeman clearly wanted him because Moyes even admitted Kenwright had been in touch wanting to do a deal. It's unlikely we'll prise away Van Djik so I imagine we'll try again for this fella and this time Sunderland will be happy to let us take him providing the offer is good.
Gordon Bennett
Player Valuation: £225k
As mu ch as he did my head in with his negative attitude and the way he left
Ive got to say i feel a bit sorry for moyes not being given the money he was assured
If there is one thing moyes is good at is building a squad on a limited budget
Ive got to say i feel a bit sorry for moyes not being given the money he was assured
If there is one thing moyes is good at is building a squad on a limited budget
tommye
Player Valuation: £100m
The irony is beautiful. He leaves poor little Everton to head off to Man U for promises of untold riches. Cocks it up and eventually turns up at even poorer little Sunderland.
Up yours Davey
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Looks like youve got half your team out with injuries. Any Pickford to Everton rumours + how do you rate him compared to other English keepers?
Sunderland afc
Player Valuation: £8m
He is great prospect but I'd be surprised if we let him go this season. The only keeper I can compare him with his given when we had him as a young kid and for me given just shades it, but pickford distribution is class.
Unless a stupid bid comes in then i dont think we will sell. He is a Sunderland lad aged 22. Not sure what a stupid bid would be for a keeper to be honest. If I use Henderson as an example we got 18 million for him and was a good deal as I think he has improved since he left us and at the time that was crazy money. Pickford can improve with us. I fully expect the the lad to leave at some point but like I said unless it is a stupid bid I'd be gutted if he went this season.
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
It wouldn't be that big deal, yes I'd be annoyed we'd lost to a relegation battling Sunderland side but we've done that before. We've beaten Moyes three times now, twice while he was at Utd and we schooled Sunderland at the stadium of light earlier this season. If Moyes remains at Sunderland long-term then odds are at some point he will beat us. The ultimate embarrassment was being 3-0 down to Tranmere Rovers or being involved in last day great escapes, losing to Moyes and Sunderland wouldn't even come close to either of them or anything else like that.
The irony of us treating Moyes's Sunderland like they're some kind of enemy who we simply cannot lose to is that it would play into Moyes's hands. He loves to create a siege, us vs them mentality and the pressure would all be on us. Much better to treat Sunderland and Moyes as just another poor side coming to Goodison.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
Oh well that puts a different spin on it. Utd losing at home to Moyes after acting like they were to good for him and not having improved since he left would be very embarrassing for them.Hes a Utd fan
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