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Do believe Moye's fatal flaw is the same as jose's this year. Not buying our players lol

I think if Baines went to united that summer then Moyes could have built something from that, with his favourite two players in the new united team. Same as Jose and Stones, he planned to build his defence with him and when he couldn't sign him the defensive struggles affected the whole team.
 

The common denominator in the demise of both Moyes and Van Gaal is Giggs, IMO.

It is Giggs rather than Ferguson who is turning out to be the spectre at the feast and whilst he is at the club no manager is going to respected the way he should be.

When Van Gaal is fired the next manager should kick Giggs out the club.
He looks like a lost soul at that club. I'd have more respect for him if he went and proved himself as a manager...a judgement that applies at all clubs, btw, this one included.
 
So you could say, this is LVG's team, and he should be able to get more out of them.
Yes. He's struggling. He did get them to the CL last season though and I'd guess he'll repeat that this season too once they sort themselves out...no doubt with a trip into the transfer market.

I dont like his style of play, but he's capable of doing much more than Moyes. Moyes neither has the stature nor the ability to coach top players.
 
Yes. He's struggling. He did get them to the CL last season though and I'd guess he'll repeat that this season too once they sort themselves out...no doubt with a trip into the transfer market.

I dont like his style of play, but he's capable of doing much more than Moyes. Moyes neither has the stature nor the ability to coach top players.
You didn't class Arteta, Cahill, Baines, Lescott et al as top players? You can't argue Moyes didn't improve them as players.
 

You didn't class Arteta, Cahill, Baines, Lescott et al as top players? You can't argue Moyes didn't improve them as players.
Baines is the only one of those I'd call a 'top player'...and even there he left him out for a year after buying him.
 
Baines is the only one of those I'd call a 'top player'...and even there he left him out for a year after buying him.
You can be too blinkered (I don't mean you personally,) sometimes mate. Moyes isn't/wasn't as bad as you assume, and Martinez maybe isn't as good as we think he is. I am a Martinez supporter by the way and believe he will achieve something with Everton.
 
He will always be the man who just wanted to get out of old Trafford alive.

Undid years of work winning us over with that hero worshipping quip.

As for his management prospects, he'll never get a club who'll give him the time or power we did.
 

The common denominator in the demise of both Moyes and Van Gaal is Giggs, IMO.

It is Giggs rather than Ferguson who is turning out to be the spectre at the feast and whilst he is at the club no manager is going to respected the way he should be.

When Van Gaal is fired the next manager should kick Giggs out the club.

Oh boy do I agree with this.
The hype around Giggs is sickening. Good player, but what serious credentials does he have to warrant him being given a managerial role, even by those numpties at OT ?
 

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