MSP Sports Capital

[blueblood]

How are we still in a FFP hole ? We’ve been penny pinching for four transfer windows now

I think this year’s accounts will be in a much healthier position due to how we structured any incoming transfer deals last summer and the net gain of about £65 million in transfer fees in January. I wouldn’t be surprised if we even turn a small profit in the 22-23 accounts that run to June 30th.

Next year (23-24) is clearly dependent on whether we stay up.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Im not convinced these guys have a money hose. Saudi princes they are not.

Najafi on his own is worth more than Moshiri before you start including the others within the group. They have a lot more than 777 basically who are dodgy as hell.

 

[Pabbers]

He has spent near 500 million on the stadium alone, share rights issues are 300 million plus whatever he paid from us at the time of buying us.

If the fee is 600 million he will make a sizeable lose.

Im pretty sure he has noty spend half that amount on the ground yet, i may be wrong...I often am.

Either way, the gound will be worth more that what it costs to build....thats why I think have attracted the type of investors.

 

[KaiserEFC]

Are they going to tell Moshiri that the Ghost of Everton Past that visits him nightly is just Kia Joorabchian wearing a bedsheet?

 

[allen]

Either way, the gound will be worth more that what it costs to build....thats why I think have attracted the type of investors.

Will it, though?

I know that applies to most property - otherwise the construction industry wouldn't exist - but does it apply to stadia where there are no other viable users beyond the team that built it?

 

[Pabbers]

Will it, though?

I know that applies to most property - otherwise the construction industry wouldn't exist - but does it apply to stadia where there are no other viable users beyond the team that built it?

But it will have use all year round, and is part of that areas redovelopment, pretty much connecting it back to the City centre.

Im not saying it will be worth £10 billion all of a sudden, but once its all done will be worth a lot more that £500-£600 million, as you say...its generally how the industry works.

 

[allen]

But it will have use all year round, and is part of that areas redovelopment, pretty much connecting it back to the City centre.

Im not saying it will be worth £10 billion all of a sudden, but once its all done will be worth a lot more that £500-£600 million, as you say...its generally how the industry works.

I hope so - but of course the other ancillary events the stadium will be able to support are just ancillary. There needs to be an anchor tenant, and we are the only viable option - unless Tranmere go all Wrexham or something.

 

[sam17]

Najafi on his own is worth more than Moshiri before you start including the others within the group. They have a lot more than 777 basically who are dodgy as hell.

Forbes Rich List 2023

949 Farhad Moshiri $3.1 B
2133 Jahm Najafi $1.3 B

 

[Simon Buttle]

But it will have use all year round, and is part of that areas redovelopment, pretty much connecting it back to the City centre.

Im not saying it will be worth £10 billion all of a sudden, but once its all done will be worth a lot more that £500-£600 million, as you say...its generally how the industry works.

The Americans are usually pretty good when it comes to the commercial side of sports, I would imagine they have a long list of ideas/things they can do to make money through BMD.

 

[Pabbers]

I hope so - but of course the other ancillary events the stadium will be able to support are just ancillary. There needs to be an anchor tenant, and we are the only viable option - unless Tranmere go all Wrexham or something.

Olympics, Euros, England games, music events, festivals, hotels etc. All will apply when we dont play games.

The pier head is rammed all summer and has events thourgh the year.....that will speard up to BMD, along with the planned park next to it.

Again, not saing we will all of a sudden become mega rich with a 'super money producing magic ground'....but it will be multi functional and the only reason IMO we are attracting any interest of investment.

Its quite exiting really.....if you remove the actual football from the thinking.

 

[chrismpw]

The Americans are usually pretty good when it comes to the commercial side of sports, I would imagine they have a long list of ideas/things they can do to make money through BMD.

Make? Nobody makes money apart from the mint and the imagination of politicians. The phrase "make money" is a sanitisation to hide acquisition.

I think you meant "collect."

 

[Zatara]

The Americans are usually pretty good when it comes to the commercial side of sports, I would imagine they have a long list of ideas/things they can do to make money through BMD.

Theres your first mistake...

 

[Tony’s Carp]

I think this year’s accounts will be in a much healthier position due to how we structured any incoming transfer deals last summer and the net gain of about £65 million in transfer fees in January. I wouldn’t be surprised if we even turn a small profit in the 22-23 accounts that run to June 30th.

Next year (23-24) is clearly dependent on whether we stay up.

And the 22-23 accounts replace 18-19 in the calculation, and that was a 100m plus loss. If we avoid serious sanctions for the current position things really turn a corner from this summer on.

 

[allen]

Olympics, Euros, England games, music events, festivals, hotels etc. All will apply when we dont play games.

The pier head is rammed all summer and has events thourgh the year.....that will speard up to BMD, along with the planned park next to it.

Again, not saing we will all of a sudden become mega rich with a 'super money producing magic ground'....but it will be multi functional and the only reason IMO we are attracting any interest of investment.

Its quite exiting really.....if you remove the actual football from the thinking.

Yeah, I agree with all that.

The value is in the football club playing there plus the extras.

So really, it increases the club's value to have the new stadium, even if we couldn't sell the stadium for more than we paid for it.

Ultimately that's what matters - added value to the club, even if it's not directly on the concrete and steel's value.

 

[IV(AC)]

The Americans are usually pretty good when it comes to the commercial side of sports, I would imagine they have a long list of ideas/things they can do to make money through BMD.

Sell it to the RS for 700M probably. Brand new stadium of the waterfront? We’ll even paint the seats red, bro