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2024/25 Nathan Patterson

N0L1M1TK said:
He needs to start, Young at LB.

His cross and eagerness to get forward is exactly what we are missing.

Start Gana & Mangala, tell Patterson and Young to a lesser extent that to put crosses into the box.

Might actually see a goal or two then..
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Bang on. And, if I'm not mistaken, Young had had more assists this season from being on the left. It's a no brainer
 
MACCA75 said:
Surely if he was ‘levels above’ then they play him at left back, or right midfield.

I think he’s ok and should be playing but I haven’t ever seen anything from him that suggests he’s anything exceptional or should be playing in the top half of the Premier League.
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Mate, he was levels above other players his age. Like I say, stood out like a sore thumb. Not levels above a senior pro, the captain and the teams best player, playing the best football of his career. I don’t know why people find that so hard to understand.

Coleman struggled to get a start ahead of Phil Neville who was out captain (and nowhere near as important to the team as Tavernier was to Rangers at the time). It didn’t mean Coleman didn’t have talent, potential you could see.

In terms of exceptional, like what are you measuring that against? He’s not like a Rooney, some sort of generational talent that is going to be straight in the first team in the prem at 20 or 21 whatever it was when he joined and be the best player in the team and make no mistakes. He was a young talented player, that had rough edges that needed developed but had high potential.

I think expectations for a young player have been quite bizarre. Pounced on when he makes a mistake for some reason. If we gave his as much time as we’ve given Myko with no improvement then fine but we haven’t.

Like I say, he was as good if not better than Hickey, Naismith (Gary), Hutton, Robertson at the same age - that’s all. Not a world beater but a talent to be nurtured.
 
BigDuncTributeBand said:
Mate, he was levels above other players his age. Like I say, stood out like a sore thumb. Not levels above a senior pro, the captain and the teams best player, playing the best football of his career. I don’t know why people find that so hard to understand.

Coleman struggled to get a start ahead of Phil Neville who was out captain (and nowhere near as important to the team as Tavernier was to Rangers at the time). It didn’t mean Coleman didn’t have talent, potential you could see.

In terms of exceptional, like what are you measuring that against? He’s not like a Rooney, some sort of generational talent that is going to be straight in the first team in the prem at 20 or 21 whatever it was when he joined and be the best player in the team and make no mistakes. He was a young talented player, that had rough edges that needed developed but had high potential.

I think expectations for a young player have been quite bizarre. Pounced on when he makes a mistake for some reason. If we gave his as much time as we’ve given Myko with no improvement then fine but we haven’t.

Like I say, he was as good if not better than Hickey, Naismith (Gary), Hutton, Robertson at the same age - that’s all. Not a world beater but a talent to be nurtured.
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Ok mate, he was highly regarded. I understand.
 
Clarky cat said:
And this is it, when the team gets inevitably pumped guess who immediately gets dropped… shameful the way some of the players here are treated yet others who have this magical “experience” are allowed infinite minutes to get in to some kind of form
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Michael Ball has called Dyche out for it today in the echo.

Effectively saying he has favourites (McNeil) and others and told to wait.

BigDuncTributeBand said:
I don’t support either if the Old Firm. I do watch a lot of Scottish football and sadly for my sins have a season ticket at Hearts.

Even though the league is poor, very poor even, every so often you see a young player who stands out and is head and shoulders above the rest. You can tell they’re too good to be in the Scottish league and will go on to bigger things.

Aaron Hickey when he was at Hearts, playing in the Scottish cup final at 16 and looking like the most composed player in the pitch. Saw Gary Naismith come through at Hearts as a 17 year old, he had it. Alan Hutton at Rangers stood out when I saw him for Scotland under 21s. John McGinn at city rivals Hibs is another one.

Paterson was a similar bracket, when I saw him in Europe for Rangers or for Scotland looked a similar stand out prospect. He’s had too many injuries here, ultimately he’s not been able to stay fit enough. That said, he was a real prospect and we’ve handled him terribly. He’s not a Dyche type fullback, he wants to play out of defence, he wants to play give and goes, he wants to overlap and get crosses in. He’s nowhere near as bad a defender as some have made out. Just a young player who, if we’d persevered with, like we have Mkyo, we’d have seen improvement and there was a potential good player there.

Ultimately Dyche just won’t have him, he wants a fullback to be a wide centre back, that’s it. He’s too busy telling the boy what he can’t do instead of focussing on what he can do. Can’t see him making it here now, shame as was a genuine prospect at one point.
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BigDuncTributeBand said:
Keep seeing this on here. Every Rangers fan i know rated him really highly and wanted him to play more. The problem was Tavenier was their Captain, best player and scoring 15 odd goals a season from right back - he was Rangers most important player. Paterson was very highly rated, very highly.
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Patterson indeed was rated extremely highly by Rangers which is why we went for him and they asked a higher fee.

My Rangers contact(s) were saying we'd got a future top class right back and were gutted he'd left them.

Just watching him its obvious to me hes by far our best RB...the stats support that.
 

N0L1M1TK said:
He needs to start, Young at LB.

His cross and eagerness to get forward is exactly what we are missing.

Start Gana & Mangala, tell Patterson and Young to a lesser extent that to put crosses into the box.

Might actually see a goal or two then..
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Feels like a no-brainer this to be honest , whether we see it is a different story mind
 
In January, both Patterson and Mykolenko will have been on our books for three years during which they have demonstrated that they can't defend. We need to be more ruthless and bin them.
 
davek said:
Yeah, just like he flourished under Benitez and Lampard.

He'll be flourishing in the Highland League come January.
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Ouch Dave! Those are scathing remarks... 🤯

Benitez, Lampard and Dyche... You've just hit the trifecta of poo there, mate!

The lad deserves a chance under a competent manager.
 

BigDuncTributeBand said:
Mate, he was levels above other players his age. Like I say, stood out like a sore thumb. Not levels above a senior pro, the captain and the teams best player, playing the best football of his career. I don’t know why people find that so hard to understand.

Coleman struggled to get a start ahead of Phil Neville who was out captain (and nowhere near as important to the team as Tavernier was to Rangers at the time). It didn’t mean Coleman didn’t have talent, potential you could see.

In terms of exceptional, like what are you measuring that against? He’s not like a Rooney, some sort of generational talent that is going to be straight in the first team in the prem at 20 or 21 whatever it was when he joined and be the best player in the team and make no mistakes. He was a young talented player, that had rough edges that needed developed but had high potential.

I think expectations for a young player have been quite bizarre. Pounced on when he makes a mistake for some reason. If we gave his as much time as we’ve given Myko with no improvement then fine but we haven’t.

Like I say, he was as good if not better than Hickey, Naismith (Gary), Hutton, Robertson at the same age - that’s all. Not a world beater but a talent to be nurtured.
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Wow, he was as good as Gary Naysmith? Incredible that we fought off the European heavyweights who must have been circling really.
 
120 seasons said:
In January, both Patterson and Mykolenko will have been on our books for three years during which they have demonstrated that they can't defend. We need to be more ruthless and bin them.
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Did you think Patterson couldnt defend when we had a run of clean sheets with him in the team? Or when the stats showed he was our best RB?

Couldnt Mykolenko defend last season?

Interesting...
 
…there shouldn’t be any excuses for Patterson, he’s been poor defensively and in the top third. Think it’s been a myth his attacking prowess (accepting a great cross for Danjuma goal and a Dobbin header for U21s). He is decent and comfortable in possession, so can link with teammates.

As a forward you’d love playing against him as he either rushes at you making it easy to get beyond him, or he’s in no-man’s land giving you space to get crosses in. I’ve not know a conventional full-back who does not have the ability to mark his winger. Let’s not blame the managers who haven’t selected him.

He won’t be the first to reflect from an extended period out of the game. It’d be great if he can finally make the step-up, it really is up to him.
 

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