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TheBigIguana said:
Well they were his toe being two inches further back from playing in the Finals a season ago so although it hasn't gone right they were certainly in the picture.
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Well exactly. Why risk a bright future of play-off appearances for just a chance in the next 2 years then nothing after that?
 
Nymzee said:
Well exactly. Why risk a bright future of play-off appearances for just a chance in the next 2 years then nothing after that?
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Because it is New Orleans and you might get nothing after that anyway.

Plus the current nature of Zion also might mean you get nothing even if he is around awhile.

Plus I don't really believe the current team gets over the hump anyway. Competing with Phoenix and losing in 6 looks a lot less impressive when Dallas just goes out and beats them before being well worse than the Warriors.

I just don't see turning down KD being the best move if they can make it happen.
 
TheBigIguana said:
Because it is New Orleans and you might get nothing after that anyway.

Plus the current nature of Zion also might mean you get nothing even if he is around awhile.

Plus I don't really believe the current team gets over the hump anyway. Competing with Phoenix and losing in 6 looks a lot less impressive when Dallas just goes out and beats them before being well worse than the Warriors.

I just don't see turning down KD being the best move if they can make it happen.
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This opinion of yours couldn’t be more opposing to your footballing opinions.
 

Nymzee said:
Hardly. Creating a squad to win trophies. One you’re okay hedging bets on a 34-year old star to try win something, the other you’d whinge for eternity if they signed a 34-year old star to try win something.
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One sport gives everyone a somewhat level playing field, the other doesn't. That's a major difference without getting into the specifics of football versus basketball.

You can be a middling team and try to chase a title with a couple of older players if that is actually something you can pull off in the NBA. That isn't really a possibility in football. It is like West Ham signing Ronaldo (maybe a couple of years ago). It doesn't actually put them over the top the same way. City and the RS still maintain their spot as favorites.
 
TheBigIguana said:
Well they were his toe being two inches further back from playing in the Finals a season ago so although it hasn't gone right they were certainly in the picture.
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I get what you're saying but I must remark that the "if only his shoe size were 1/2 smaller" stuff is beyond tiresome. Let's just say he missed the shot he needed, and lost a series on such a small margin, because that's the fair way to put it. Nobody did him wrong, he just didn't get it done.
 
TheBigIguana said:
Because it is New Orleans and you might get nothing after that anyway.

Plus the current nature of Zion also might mean you get nothing even if he is around awhile.

Plus I don't really believe the current team gets over the hump anyway. Competing with Phoenix and losing in 6 looks a lot less impressive when Dallas just goes out and beats them before being well worse than the Warriors.

I just don't see turning down KD being the best move if they can make it happen.
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The thinking from Pets supporters is that the package you give away to get KD is too big for a team that has a real chance of being good with its current setup. Griffin et al clearly think Zion is/will be healthy due to the huge extension they gave him. BI looks to be the best part of that young Lakers team that was broken up in the AD trade, and is a legit #2 or #3 option on a good team. All they lack is a good distributor and/or big who can close out a game from being a great team. This year's rotation should feature Zion who played none last year and CJ who played half the year; they're 2 years away from being who they can be and still have the Lakers' picks as draft capital. And the Pets like their kids: Trey Murphy has hardly featured but has an NBA shot is an NBA shooter and you should see him emerge this year (if he gets playing time); Herb can ball; Alvarado is a problem and great in the rotation; Jaxon Hayes still has a role to play. The only question is whether some or all of Devontae Graham, Jaxon Hayes, or Jonas Valanciunus gets traded.

TLDR; the Pets only trade for KD in these scenarios

(1) they know something about Zion they haven't yet shared (although tbf I think they would trade BI for KD, not Zion)
(2) they have valuable assets they can't use and want to trade out before they walk (like Memphis)
(3) Gayle Benson says "Do it!"
 

SerenityNigh said:
The thinking from Pets supporters is that the package you give away to get KD is too big for a team that has a real chance of being good with its current setup. Griffin et al clearly think Zion is/will be healthy due to the huge extension they gave him. BI looks to be the best part of that young Lakers team that was broken up in the AD trade, and is a legit #2 or #3 option on a good team. All they lack is a good distributor and/or big who can close out a game from being a great team. This year's rotation should feature Zion who played none last year and CJ who played half the year; they're 2 years away from being who they can be and still have the Lakers' picks as draft capital. And the Pets like their kids: Trey Murphy has hardly featured but has an NBA shot is an NBA shooter and you should see him emerge this year (if he gets playing time); Herb can ball; Alvarado is a problem and great in the rotation; Jaxon Hayes still has a role to play. The only question is whether some or all of Devontae Graham, Jaxon Hayes, or Jonas Valanciunus gets traded.

TLDR; the Pets only trade for KD in these scenarios

(1) they know something about Zion they haven't yet shared (although tbf I think they would trade BI for KD, not Zion)
(2) they have valuable assets they can't use and want to trade out before they walk (like Memphis)
(3) Gayle Benson says "Do it!"
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*the Pels
 

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