New Everton Manager

[hktoffee]

If you forget he is the ex manager of a certain team he is not the like in Martinez, Silva or Potter.

 

[PhilM]

Imagine going from Carlo to Benitez, absolutely in bits here.

If you looked at it without the blue-tinted glasses, you're looking at another winning manager: La Liga twice; multiple domestic cups; CL and UEFA Cup.

Yes they're not recent honours and there's questions about recent success, but it's not the absolutely huge fall that some may be suggesting it is.

In Carlo and Rafael (when appointed), we have two managers with more respectable honours than probably our last ten or so managers together.

Seems our fans are starting to warm to the idea of Rafael coming here. No 'C' word this time, it's looking good

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Spraying anything on Goodison Park is needless.

 

[Terrarian]

Holy moly, people are actually tweeting they hope we lose the first 10 games to get him sacked, that's a bit much like, the club still comes first.

 

[blue to the bone]

If you forget he is the ex manager of a certain team he is not the like in Martinez, Silva or Potter.

I don't really understand this.
But what is your profile pic!!

 

[Mrk]

Holy moly, people are actually tweeting they hope we lose the first 10 games to get him sacked, that's a bit much like, the club still comes first.

Agree, 10 is a little extreme - just the first 9 would do.

 

[PhilM]

I don't really understand this.
But what is your profile pic!!

I think the point is that when you look at it objectively he's still a step up from the likes of Martinez, Silva and Potter. Not ideal, but an improvement nonetheless.

 

[T LEAFE]

In my 60 years of supporting the Blues I never thought I would see BFS and FSW as our managers
School of Science…..

 

[degsy]

Tbh as soon as Benitez took the Chelsea job he showed that he has absolutely scant regard for the respect of Kopites. He’s as much a mercenary as the rest of them. Even Mourinho took employment from United and Spurs after being a Chelsea legend. The fact Benitez is even willing to take an interview with us shows he couldn’t give one about his Liverpool connections. I’m sure the Valencia fans weren’t happy about him rocking up at Madrid either, did he care? No.

Of course that works the other way around as well. He’s not going to be a lifelong Evertonian after this, but quite frankly neither have any of our managers been since HK was last in charge. Ancelotti talked the talk then binned us off at the first opportunity. Benitez is a mercenary football manager (like they all are) who will probably put himself before any of his clubs. As long as we understand that when we get into business with him then there’s no reason an exchange can’t take place where we pay him and he improves us. If he doesn’t he’s out, but that’s the same for any manager.

The only way that fans will have this sentimental misty eyed view of the club as they remember it being decades ago is if we appointed an ex player as manager. The fact that most of them are derided as cone layers on here shows that wouldn’t go down too well either. As soon as we go ‘outside of the parish’ for a manager we run the risk that any decent manager will not want to stay here. They have no connection to Everton, they don’t care about us, we are a stepping stone for them. We got a bit lucky with Moyes, but any manager who is good, or on the pathway to being good, won’t even look at us, or if they did won’t be here long.

Benitez might still be decent (I’ve no idea to be honest). He’ll probably stick around for a bit as he’s not on the upward curve at the moment and has done a lot of his career moving (what we thought we were getting under Ancelotti) and already lives here. He has prem experience and knows how to manage poor players.

He’s ticking all of Moshiri’s and probably Brand’s boxes whether we like it or not, and was probably the reason why Moyes and Nuno were amongst the other candidates. I’d imagine Everton’s requirements were something like this:

Must negate the risk of relegation before we move to a new stadium

Low likelihood of leaving for another club, will commit to a project to see us into the stadium

Has experience managing squads of different talent levels, and preferably in the premier league

Could push the club forward to European competition qualification

Can make use of the players we already have in the squad an attract other decent players

Preferable if available and affordable as cash is probably tight after Covid.


If this is anywhere close to what Everton were looking for then it immediately rules out a whole host of managers including Conte, Potter, Howe, Martinez, even Favre.

It actually leaves quite a short list which includes Moyes and Nuno and Benitez. Considering the first two were absolutely panned on here when linked then it’s only the Liverpool connection being the only blocker as to why Benitez isn’t a good choice for the club right now.

People don’t seem to understand that we cannot take a risk in this position. We are all chips in on the new stadium, Covid has made everything more difficult, the squad is in a perilous position with the best players unfit or wanting out and the rest not very good. We cannot roll the dice on a manager who might not integrate, can’t get the squad behind him, is shocked by the prem, or needs 100s of millions on players to implement his philosophy and can’t get results in the mean time.

I don't have to like it though...I'd rather they didn't, but can't do much if they do.
It will all end in tears

 

[blue to the bone]

I think the point is that when you look at it objectively he's still a step up from the likes of Martinez, Silva and Potter. Not ideal, but an improvement nonetheless.

Debatable on his last 7 or 8 years. But it's done now

 

[Jim Hopper]

it will

Nobody knows.

As things stand currently I expect no change to the way we play, however if he comes in, we add 3/4 first team players (new right back who can cross a ball, a pacey right winger) actually puts a system in place instead of the “just go out and play approach” and doesn’t swap his team around week in week out then it’s already an improvement on what we had last season.

Pointless getting outraged with an end of the world attitude over it IMO.

 

[street end]

I get all the moaning over Rafael but we did also employ someone who had only won 7 premier league games and everyone was made up with it at the time.

 

[Kev50]

If the stadium has now become Everton's reason to exist and is going to be an excuse for us continuing to tread water and for every dreadful board room decision then maybe it's best we don't have it? Can anyone name a team who went from also ran to contender purely because of a new stadium? I can't think of a single one but I can think of examples of teams that went backwards after the construction of a new home, Arsenal being the obvious one.

I'm starting to think the new stadium is going to be the club's greatest mistake. Will cost literally half a billion to move from a cathedral to a soulless bowl on the windy river next to a sewage works.

 

[matty1878]

If you looked at it without the blue-tinted glasses, you're looking at another winning manager: La Liga twice; multiple domestic cups; CL and UEFA Cup.

Yes they're not recent honours and there's questions about recent success, but it's not the absolutely huge fall that some may be suggesting it is.

In Carlo and Rafael (when appointed), we have two managers with more respectable honours than probably our last ten or so managers together.

Spraying anything on Goodison Park is needless.

so pitchforks and lit olympic torches instead?

 

[matty1878]

Who do you think it will be ?

someone from the euros

 

[Kev50]

We've been done over by the lack of talent available but there is never a need to appoint someone the fan base clearly don't want.

If you thought the football was bad at times last year wait until this fella gets his way.

it won't be as bad as last year. Last year was the worst. Hammered at home by relegatio fodder, and unable to pass the ball forwards. No way.