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New Everton Stadium

4737carlin said:
Not a chance in declassifing that clock tower, anything connected to Jesse Hartley is very important in the history of the Liverpool, all the listed stuff around there we need to incorporate.
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Oh I'm not saying they will be. Just saying they can be. The Vernons pools tower for example. Listed building but flattened because it was left to go to ruin.
I want us to keep every feature at the dock. They will add a touch of class.
 
I need a planning expert to correct me if I am wrong (@The_La), but in wanting to re-develop an old heritage site it is useful (for some reason) to keep the highest building on it completely intact and as part of your future plans, in order to expedite planning permission.
 
Gladystweet said:
Oh I'm not saying they will be. Just saying they can be. The Vernons pools tower for example. Listed building but flattened because it was left to go to ruin.
I want us to keep every feature at the dock. They will add a touch of class.
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I hope so too, as far as possible. And that the design would compliment the location and be recognisable inside and out. For all her faults, if you took all the branding off Goodison and stuck even a passable football fan in the centre circle with a blindfold on, then took it off they'd know exactly where they were.
Just tuned in to the Saints-Burnley game, and St Mary's is just woeful. King of the bin lids. Completely nondescript inside and looks like a Royal Mail sorting office from the outside. Crap ground, I'd rather stay at Goodison till we were propping her up ourselves on match day than move somewhere like that.
 
Gardocki said:
You can't if it's listed.
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In that case, we can't build there. No way would health and safety allow 50,000 people to get through one gate. Is it listed, by the way? If you think of it, all it is there for is to stop pilfering. It will be the first time in 180 years Joe Public will be allowed on that part of the Mersey.
 

ste d' indica said:
I hope so too, as far as possible. And that the design would compliment the location and be recognisable inside and out. For all her faults, if you took all the branding off Goodison and stuck even a passable football fan in the centre circle with a blindfold on, then took it off they'd know exactly where they were.
Just tuned in to the Saints-Burnley game, and St Mary's is just woeful. King of the bin lids. Completely nondescript inside and looks like a Royal Mail sorting office from the outside. Crap ground, I'd rather stay at Goodison till we were propping her up ourselves on match day than move somewhere like that.
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Yeah, St Mary's, riverside, stadium of light,..not very inspiring. (Apologies to our resident Sunderland fans) I think our new ground will simply have to be iconic just to be allowed to be built in the first place...especially on such a site of such historical importance.
Let's just hope and pray we get it right.
 
Jack1882 said:
It would be a nice feature if you guys made a bigger more intimidating Kop end than your neighbours. One up them if you will. A dockyard stadium would be very interesting, I imagine it would be a very complicated build though.
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They've filled a few docks in down there, they've just built a £300m new dock at Seaforth by filling in, that now houses 5 ship to shore cranes. The logistics for traffic management will cause the problem for the planners
 
ive heard moshiri has bought all the bricks and rubble from upton parks demolition and is going to rebuild the boelyn ground on the waterfront. £50 a lorry full, x 10,000 = £5million. we gunna sell aaron lennon to fund our new/old stadium.

he's also going to transfer the new blue cladding from goodison revamp.

good with his money the mosh, that why he's loaded.

were so lucky to have him!
 
I think I'm correct that listed buildings issue can be dealt with by moving them (not the wall obviously). Not cheap but the whole project isn't cheap. Also the wall may be retained but not in its entirety, will give some leeway to the planners.
 
arch stanton said:
I think I'm correct that listed buildings issue can be dealt with by moving them (not the wall obviously). Not cheap but the whole project isn't cheap. Also the wall may be retained but not in its entirety, will give some leeway to the planners.
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When is it going to the planners ? That meeting on Friday looked like the application is ready in my eyes
 

ToffeeDoug said:
I need a planning expert to correct me if I am wrong (@The_La), but in wanting to re-develop an old heritage site it is useful (for some reason) to keep the highest building on it completely intact and as part of your future plans, in order to expedite planning permission.
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I don't think that is accurate - I'm fairly sure if a tall building was there previously an equally tall building can be put on the same site in the future as a precedent has been set.
 
We destroyed 3 Grade II listed buildings as part of our stadium development. Planning for ours took about 5 years, it was a very long process. I'm not sure how much of that was due to those buildings though. It was probably also because building big things in London is really hard.

There's also a Grade I listed building that's been integrated into the plans and has been retained.
 
arch stanton said:
I think I'm correct that listed buildings issue can be dealt with by moving them (not the wall obviously). Not cheap but the whole project isn't cheap. Also the wall may be retained but not in its entirety, will give some leeway to the planners.
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In front of the Waterloo Warehouses is potentially being developed for the new IOM Ferry Terminal and an access road is to be built if it happens. I'm thinking that would create further access and allow dispersal along the waterfront towards Princes Dock?
 

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