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New Everton Stadium


The binman chronicles said:
If it was them they'd be building new bits not destroying them or introducing some protected wildlife, heard some chatter about the latter from a RS forum. Jealous B.....
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Reminds me of that episode of League Of Gentlemen. We go to fill the dock in, and a strange creature is discovered. The local vet, DR Chinnery is called in and declares that this strange beast is an alien species and work must halt immediately.
A report comes in on a police radio that the roundabout zoo has been raided and the kopites have nicked a goat, a chimp and a pig, sewn them together and chucked it in the dock.


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It seems Mayor Joe Anderson has had an epiphany. Last Thursday the media were briefed, "Anderson is understood to be in favour of Everton relocating to the waterfront site." Very helpful if true.
However in May he insisted a stadium was achievable in just 2 years and said, "If it were a dockland site that’s not owned by us, they would have to purchase that. If they do something with us ... we are prepared to do a deal with them that brings the scheme to fruition. I am restrained in talking openly about this while they are still talking to (other) landowners."
He was clearly strongly pushing SC at that time and then in mid July was inadvertently pictured at the Farhad & Bill meeting with an SC prospectus. This prompted a twitter backlash by angry Evertonians.
Subsequently, in August, he started dropping twitter hints about BM and now, apparently, is a supporter. Quiet a conversion. I think it a good indicator of progress in the talks with Peel and, of course, a wily politician ensuring that he's not made the scapegoat for anger if we end up with SC.
 
Gladystweet said:
Reminds me of that episode of League Of Gentlemen. We go to fill the dock in, and a strange creature is discovered. The local vet, DR Chinnery is called in and declares that this strange beast is an alien species and work must halt immediately.
A report comes in on a police radio that the roundabout zoo has been raided and the kopites have nicked a goat, a chimp and a pig, sewn them together and chucked it in the dock.


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Would be so Everton if when they drain the dock they find a school of unique fish with a high scientific value that can only live in the BM dock waters. If that is the case we should stop looking for a new home immediately as obviously a higher power doesn't want us to move.
 
The binman chronicles said:
Would be so Everton if when they drain the dock they find a school of unique fish with a high scientific value that can only live in the BM dock waters. If that is the case we should stop looking for a new home immediately as obviously a higher power doesn't want us to move.
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Nah. You'll only find Mersey kippers in there mate. And the odd lady napkin.
 

Bullet said:
It seems Mayor Joe Anderson has had an epiphany. Last Thursday the media were briefed, "Anderson is understood to be in favour of Everton relocating to the waterfront site." Very helpful if true.
However in May he insisted a stadium was achievable in just 2 years and said, "If it were a dockland site that’s not owned by us, they would have to purchase that. If they do something with us ... we are prepared to do a deal with them that brings the scheme to fruition. I am restrained in talking openly about this while they are still talking to (other) landowners."
He was clearly strongly pushing SC at that time and then in mid July was inadvertently pictured at the Farhad & Bill meeting with an SC prospectus. This prompted a twitter backlash by angry Evertonians.
Subsequently, in August, he started dropping twitter hints about BM and now, apparently, is a supporter. Quiet a conversion. I think it a good indicator of progress in the talks with Peel and, of course, a wily politician ensuring that he's not made the scapegoat for anger if we end up with SC.
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i think the change in opinion/preference may also be due to a politician's desire not to back a losing horse... he's seen the dock site winning and jumped horse.
 
rochdaleblue said:
The more I read about Dan Meis and his work the more excited I am about what he could deliver. He really is at the forefront of stadium design and each of his stadium designs are so individual as he takes a great deal of consideration into the topography of the landscape. The heritage aspect of Everton football club and its standing in the game coupled with the waterfront location that has been paramount in the development of the city, makes his potential design mouthwatering. He is also able to deliver stadia within budgets and in the case of the new LA Rams stadium $400 million dollars under budget of other potential designs.
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A new Dan Meis stadium on the waterfront would make the football world sit up and take notice of Everton again, you never know it may even get a mention on Sky Sports News - if I hear the phrase "Red Monday" again who knows what may happen to the telly!! Having said that I am 100% certain that the doom mongerers on here will find fault in any way shape or form they possibly can with it as they do with most other Everton related matters!
 
Eggsyblueskin said:
Luckily if we discover them after we drain the dock it would be immaterial.
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You know it will be when it gets down to 5 feet of water, "what's that? Stop the pumps!!!" The foreman in charge is bound to be RS or Pierluigi Collina (n)

I'm only jesting, I think it will be all ok but I'm not going to be 100% happy until the trucks start dumping in the fill.
 
Jack1882 said:
We destroyed 3 Grade II listed buildings as part of our stadium development. Planning for ours took about 5 years, it was a very long process. I'm not sure how much of that was due to those buildings though. It was probably also because building big things in London is really hard.

There's also a Grade I listed building that's been integrated into the plans and has been retained.
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Heritage issues didn't cause big delays for us. It was mostly the length of time it took to CPO Archway Steel.

TL;DR (but gives an idea how complicated these things can be)

Our very first set of plans proposed removing all of the heritage buildings but this was later revised and our first real set of plans - created by KSS (the same guys who designed our training ground and L*verp**l's new main stand) were released in 2008.

This scheme was declared unviable by the club only a couple of years later.

Then we wasted a couple of years on the bid for the Olympic Stadium.

By around 2012 our focus returned to a new stadium adjacent to WHL and the club started buying up the remaining properties on the Wingate Trading Estate. Only Archway Steel dug their heels in and the council CPOd the property but the decision had to be ratified by the Secretary of State. He took 18 months to do so, and even after that it went to court before it was finally ratified. That was the biggest planning delay (and in the meantime there was the fire on that property).

In early 2015 the club submitted plans for a revised basement for the stadium scheme which added weight to the rumours that new designs would be forthcoming. These basement plans were approved in June 2015 and would allow the club to start construction.

The new stadium designed by Populous was first shown in July 2015 and gained planning permission a few months later. It was only in April this year that the Secretary of State declared he wouldn't call in the new plans for review and it was then full steam ahead. The new plans, as you say, retain the nationally listed buildings but remove the locally listed ones.
 
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