MrGrumpy
Player Valuation: £50m
I use to live near it, the only thing thier is a McDonalds
MrGrumpy
Player Valuation: £50m
The 50k is an easy number to use, the 50k and 300 mil were all made up numbers, the plan now is working out cost and stuff.
Kinda like if you open a business you need to put figures on a business plan of what you think you will make and what you will spend. Does make its true it's just an estimate
Onwards Evertonians
Player Valuation: £8m
The £5.5 Billion investment that's ready to go into Liverpool Waters that Jeff from West Derby is going on about is an estimate made up of land values. Peel then have to attract in private investors who will to put their money in i.e Everton for example. Ironically our stadium and the surrounding infrastructure is now part of that £5.5 Billion estimate. Every argument of theirs can be picked apart in an instant.
Scouse
Player Valuation: £2.5m
It's on the East Lancs where Croxy ends and Gilmoss starts. Purple bins everywhere lad.
I'm made up we've got The Dock, but the Stone Bridge Everton were considering is definitely in Liverpool.
You sure you're thinking of the right place mate? Stonebridge Cross is about 6 miles from the city centre. There's a Leigh south of Bolton about 20 miles away but that has nothing to do with the Stonebridge Cross we were considering
Re the bitter rs's; It's their own fault, well FSG's - they have a 'fixed' tried and true for them business plan way of doing things...and I suppose looking at things.
They wanted the way they did it in Boston to fit the rs's needs...and it doesn't quite fit.
The big fact is somebody with a more flexible view (and better on the ground knowledge?) saw an opportunity and took it...that's what gets them.
Not that Tommy from Mossley Hill or what's his face from W Derby, know nor care...It's the council paying for it innit and the didn't give us a carrot.
Did you ask? No.
Though I seem to remember the council bending over Re Stanley Park, until Fenway pulled the plug on it as not viable, or what ever.
They wanted the way they did it in Boston to fit the rs's needs...and it doesn't quite fit.
The big fact is somebody with a more flexible view (and better on the ground knowledge?) saw an opportunity and took it...that's what gets them.
Not that Tommy from Mossley Hill or what's his face from W Derby, know nor care...It's the council paying for it innit and the didn't give us a carrot.
Did you ask? No.
Though I seem to remember the council bending over Re Stanley Park, until Fenway pulled the plug on it as not viable, or what ever.
MrGrumpy
Player Valuation: £50m
I lived in Leigh for 25 years, there is a Stonebridge cross there on the east lancs, possible it's a different place, unless the road is called Stonebridge cross, either way
BRAMLEY MOORE BRAMLEY MOORE
Any clips of Evertonians ringing in to Roger Philip's show?
The Rs arguments are equally hilarious as they are stupid. Divvys
The Rs arguments are equally hilarious as they are stupid. Divvys
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
Only thing that worries me about these RS complaints is the point about ultimate liability lying with the LCC SPV as guarantor.
It would take a truly bizarre set of circumstances for them to be left carrying the can - I.e multiple relegations, administration etc, but it is, in theory, possible.
Now I don't think it's a problem, but the RS argument will be that LCC is taking on risk, however low that risk is.
It's whether that the council cabinet take a view that they should never take on any risk whatsoever, and whether the argument sticks that if the unthinkable happens to Everton, and the council end up liable.
Hopefully the council can make a reasoned decision on Risk/reward/likelihood, and not get sucked into worst case scenario decision.
It would take a truly bizarre set of circumstances for them to be left carrying the can - I.e multiple relegations, administration etc, but it is, in theory, possible.
Now I don't think it's a problem, but the RS argument will be that LCC is taking on risk, however low that risk is.
It's whether that the council cabinet take a view that they should never take on any risk whatsoever, and whether the argument sticks that if the unthinkable happens to Everton, and the council end up liable.
Hopefully the council can make a reasoned decision on Risk/reward/likelihood, and not get sucked into worst case scenario decision.
toffee66
Player Valuation: £8m
It will depend on the contract. The initial news is good but it could still be better and there will be devil in the detail. If through the promised consultation and detailed design process we ultimately wind up at e.g. 56k+ (like Kings Dock), cost £400m+ to deliver on the "iconic, state of the art" promises & some evidence Moshiri is putting some personal capital at risk then I think we'd have about 95% happiness amongst blues. That would be near miraculous!
By all accounts these council backed SPVs are fairly common, and with all SPVs like this there will always be 'some' risk no matter how small, but EFC has got to be seen as one of the most solid companies to back (114 out of 118 years in the top flight!). Hopefully the government will realise this and jump at the chance of being able to generate few million a year of additional resources.
Agree with all this (although didn't know the SPVs are common with councils - would be interesting to see how common, and to what financial level)
As I say, for me - nothing is risk free, it's about weighing up the variables, but others are much more risk averse, and the RS could pile pressure on the council on this point.
Hopefully Big Joe A has teed up his mates to get this signed off.
MrGrumpy
Player Valuation: £50m
Everton have to put aside 3 times the amount of 1 annual cost in case something goes bad. 43 mil is put aside as a sort insurance just in case it goes bad