New Everton Stadium

[davek]

sounds crap that Dave. I used to love Subboteo but not for playing as it was as boring as anything but for the stands you used to be able to buy and accessories. Had a boss book with everything you could purchase.....not that I had enough money to get it all, my stadium ended up looking like Plough Lane.

Ha Ha.

There was some rubbish footy games back in the day. The other ones I remember were the one you moved the players with magnets under te table, and the one with a counter that passed for the ball and you flicked tiddlywink fashion to the goal.

Hopeless.

 

[nsno-chris]

He didn't say that the club stabbed the city in the back or organise a protest against the board or offer to drop the 4m payments if the club played ball on the track idea?

I think you'll find he did all those things.

Why are you debating it, a couple of posts ago you're saying that the deals going to get pulled. Make up your mind as to which argument you're standing by.

 

[davek]

Why are you debating it, a couple of posts ago you're saying that the deals going to get pulled. Make up your mind as to which argument you're standing by.

I dont think it will be pulled, I was disputing your belief that there was no turning back. That's always an option....for all parties.

 

[Amw79]

He's a clever feller. This deal has a lot of clever people involved doing clever stuff.

Clever makes me nervous.

lollollol

 

[nsno-chris]

I dont think it will be pulled, I was disputing your belief that there was no turning back. That's always an option....for all parties.

Explain why the council would pull the plug on £4m a year when there's no money coming from anywhere?

 

[maccavennie]

Ha Ha.

There was some rubbish footy games back in the day. The other ones I remember were the one you moved the players with magnets under te table, and the one with a counter that passed for the ball and you flicked tiddlywink fashion to the goal.

Hopeless.

best game is still the table top one where you spin the players. Never needed updating and always a good laugh.

right, back on topic - new stadium I can 100% guarantee will look better than Plough Lane.

 

[davek]

Explain why the council would pull the plug on £4m a year when there's no money coming from anywhere?

I think the reverse point could be made about a council exposing itself to the vagaries of the football industry for 40 years and pose the question about civic governance.

 

[nsno-chris]

I think the reverse point could be made about a council exposing itself to the vagaries of the football industry for 40 years and pose the question about civic governance.

By having a contingency in place that allows them access to million pounds of income if the worst happens.

You do realise that there is certain governance in place for the Local Authorities so they are not exposed in worst case scenarios like this.

 

[IllinoisBlue]

Any thoughts on the plans for GP after we move to BMD?

Just wondering if there is income to be had for sale or use of the stadium or land.

 

[davek]

By having a contingency in place that allows them access to million pounds of income if the worst happens.

You do realise that there is certain governance in place for the Local Authorities so they are not exposed in worst case scenarios like this.

I know that LA's can be daft as brushes and invest in Icelandic banks.

 

[TyphooToffee]

Ha Ha.

There was some rubbish footy games back in the day. The other ones I remember were the one you moved the players with magnets under te table, and the one with a counter that passed for the ball and you flicked tiddlywink fashion to the goal.

Hopeless.

I used to play Subbuteo and paint new kit on my players every year. I was obviously years ahead of my time!

 

[evo1878]

"Brave"?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/nov/19/football.russia

Thanks for sharing. 'Brave' in a professional fee sense. Post Soviet Union there was no hard currency (£ $ ¥ Dm) for entrepreneurs to pay professional fees to the likes of Deloitte where Moshiri worked. Having global firms like Deloitte as professional advisors gave a tremendous amount of credibility, legitimacy and recognition in an international level to the post-soviet entrepreneurs like Usmanov and Ambramovich and others. To his credit Moshiri took a flexible stance towards fees and took equity in lieu of hard currency. It was a barter economy like that for many years. That's what I mean by brave. Very few equity in lieu of hard currency deals ever played out well in the long term. That was as much to do with the attitude of the professional partnerships like Deloitte where Moshiri's partners in the USA and UK could not understand the reality of the nascent post-soviet economy and why even the likes of Usmanov will have had no hard currency in the early days.

 

[davek]

I used to play Subbuteo and paint new kit on my players every year. I was obviously years ahead of my time!

...only if you painted Wonga on it.

 

[davek]

Thanks for sharing. 'Brave' in a professional fee sense. Post Soviet Union there was no hard currency (£ $ ¥ Dm) for entrepreneurs to pay professional fees to the likes of Deloitte where Moshiri worked. Having global firms like Deloitte as professional advisors gave a tremendous amount of credibility, legitimacy and recognition in an international level to the post-soviet entrepreneurs like Usmanov and Ambramovich and others. To his credit Moshiri took a flexible stance towards fees and took equity in lieu of hard currency. It was a barter economy like that for many years. That's what I mean by brave. Very few equity in lieu of hard currency deals ever played out well in the long term. That was as much to do with the attitude of the professional partnerships like Deloitte where Moshiri's partners in the USA and UK could not understand the reality of the nascent post-soviet economy and why even the likes of Usmanov will have had no hard currency in the early days.

...to be fair, if I was Usmanov's accountant and he offered anything in return for services rendered I'd take it. Rather that than a helicopter ride and a header into the Black Sea.

 

[nsno-chris]

I know that LA's can be daft as brushes and invest in Icelandic banks.

You mean the illegal activities of the Icelandic banks who provided no insurances to cover any losses. And it wasn't just LA's Dave, charities and private organisations lost on their collapse.

Maybe they just have invested with a financial institution like Lehman brothers or Barings bank......oh wait