New Everton Stadium

[Big Neville Southall]

The shallow rakes of the first tier are probably the major factor of the disconnect. I can't find the image but if you overlay our stand on theirs the steeper rakes make it so that the entire top tier is closer to the pitch than at the Emirates. That's a lot of people closer to the pitch.

It won't be the rake, you need it shallow at the front

 

[GwladysBlue]

Whats interesting is whether Rotheram will risk rocking the boat by calling it in? Me personally thinks he wont be as forth coming as Anderson to get it over the line,And as a Red will be under pressure to put some sort of block on it.And certainly wont want to be in charge when we open it for business.This for me is why Joe is desperate to stay involved within the city.

Anderson has been the driving force and now looks pretty weak. Others say it's gone beyond individuals now and that its city council cabinet policy and therefore solid.

I don't buy into that.

Are you two for real, seriously?

You honestly think he isn't going to be as enthusiastic about this deal because he will be under pressure to block it as a supporter of the RS?

Jesus Christ.

His job as Mayor is to generate income for this city and move it forward. This deal is generating millions for the council whilst they do absolutely nothing except act as a guarantor to a company turning over, over £110m p/a.

Cheer up, ffs.

 

[GwladysPhil]

No news is good news?

 

[davek]

Are you two for real, seriously?

You honestly think he isn't going to be as enthusiastic about this deal because he will be under pressure to block it as a supporter of the RS?

Jesus Christ.

His job as Mayor is to generate income for this city and move it forward. This deal is generating millions for the council whilst they do absolutely nothing except act as a guarantor to a company turning over, over £110m p/a.

Cheer up, ffs.

That's not what I said. My emphasis is on Anderson. He is so badly weakened in his own party after the events of the past few days - and he is also being outflanked organisationally now by another layer of local government - that his pivotal role as a fixer is undermined badly.

How can these events not impact on the stadium situation when there is, as of yet, no signed contracts and Anderson is crucial to any such deal being cut?

It's just common sense to pose these obvious questions.

 

[RobSpurs]

The shallow rakes of the first tier are probably the major factor of the disconnect. I can't find the image but if you overlay our stand on theirs the steeper rakes make it so that the entire top tier is closer to the pitch than at the Emirates. That's a lot of people closer to the pitch.

As others have said, the laws in this country mean there are restrictions on just how steep a stand can be. The steepness is noticeable compared to the Emirates, especially as you go higher, but not anything like you'd see in Italy or Spain. Populous have squeezed as hard as they can but there's only so far you can go within the laws.

The biggest difference really between NWHL and the Emirates seating is the decision not to have a corporate ring, restricting hospitality to just the East and West stands, having the single tier south stand, and getting rid of the huge gaps behind the goals they have there (never understood why they did that). The fact the roof goes up rather than down (Arse**l had council imposed height restrictions) means everyone in the stadium will be able to see everyone else as well, no letterbox effect like at the Death Star or at the Liverpool's Big Stand.

West Stand comparison (blue - Emirates, grey - NWHL)...

 

[Eggs]

...I think Dan Meiss likes Bramley Moore;

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...s/everton-stadium-architect-dan-meis-13018990

 

[DavenhamBlue]

...I think Dan Meiss likes Bramley Moore;

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...s/everton-stadium-architect-dan-meis-13018990

Not sure if it's been mentioned previously but surely "Apple" would be a great sponsorship name for our new Bramley Moore stadium. Just a thought

 

[GwladysBlue]

That's not what I said. My emphasis is on Anderson. He is so badly weakened in his own party after the events of the past few days - and he is also being outflanked organisationally now by another layer of local government - that his pivotal role as a fixer is undermined badly.

How can these events not impact on the stadium situation when there is, as of yet, no signed contracts and Anderson is crucial to any such deal being cut?

It's just common sense to pose these obvious questions.

The Council have agreed the terms to the SPV. Everything is already in motion.

You have absolutely no idea how far along the project is. You're doing what you always do, speculating and putting a negative slant on everything.

 

[Onwards Evertonians]

Although the proposed multi-storey car park has been earmarked for the new Cruise facility, the council is reviewing locations north of Leeds Street so it could also support initiatives around the Ten Streets district and North Docks areas, including Everton FC’s proposed stadium at the nearby Bramley Moore Dock.

The council recently approved a new £20m waterfront link road by extending Leeds Street, to support the new facility and a new Isle of Man Ferry terminal, with construction expected to begin by 2019.

http://www.liverpoolexpress.co.uk/liverpool-appoints-team-new-cruise-facility/

 

[Eggs]

Not sure if it's been mentioned previously but surely "Apple" would be a great sponsorship name for our new Bramley Moore stadium. Just a thought

...I see where you coming from there, pippin.

 

[davek]

The Council have agreed the terms to the SPV. Everything is already in motion.

You have absolutely no idea how far along the project is. You're doing what you always do, speculating and putting a negative slant on everything.

Heads of terms letters - are they signed? No.

Many a slip twixt cup and lip....and for my money Anderson's demise in the world of local politics IS a factor that might realistically have intervened in this potential deal being rubber stamped.

Hopefully Anderson is just an irrelevancy, but my suspicion is that he was the major architect of the outlined contract and that it may complicate matters.

 

[Jacko93]

Heads of terms letters - are they signed? No.

Many a slip twixt cup and lip....and for my money Anderson's demise in the world of local politics IS a factor that might realistically have intervened in this potential deal being rubber stamped.

Hopefully Anderson is just an irrelevancy, but my suspicion is that he was the major architect of the outlined contract and that it may complicate matters.

Anderson would not be the deciding factor one the acceptance of any deal, so why would his political future be the deciding factor in a refusal of it? It would be interesting to see the voting of the board as to acceptance of this method, as I would be surprised if it wasn't 100% in favour.

It is a deal that benefits the city. It is not in the interests of the council to now call this whole thing off, and in my opinion, it is madness to suggest it is.

If Steve Rotherham comes in and attempts to call it off due to his footballing club preferences, then frankly, I would be worried for the city, not Everton football club.

Just because this is not a common way in the UK to finance stadiums and kickstart large infrastructure projects, it does not mean it isn't used elsewhere. This is not the first time a council has acted as an SPV for a private company, and it will not be the last.

 

[Jokerdan]

I cannot believe that Steve Rotherham would commit professional hiri kiri by blocking the development. The bigger picture and what it means to the development of the northern Docks is commercially so valuable to the city and region as a whole.
Let's not forget that the whole area has been lying vacant and dormant for a dozen years or more since Peel bought up the land and now that Moshiri has entered the picture finally there is renewed interest and a real appetite from outside investors to start looking into redevelopment. Moshiri is using his worldwide contacts to draw in this interest and as said previously Peel must be secretly delighted at his intervention. It's one thing owning real estate but it's a whole new ball game persuading outside investors to pump in their billions in redevelopment.
If Rotherham tries to overturn this then Liverpool as a city may as well shut up shop.

 

[nsno-chris]

Steve Rotherham is not blocking anything, stop believing that utter wham spouted on here.

 

[peteblue]

I cannot believe that Steve Rotherham would commit professional hiri kiri by blocking the development. The bigger picture and what it means to the development of the northern Docks is commercially so valuable to the city and region as a whole.
Let's not forget that the whole area has been lying vacant and dormant for a dozen years or more since Peel bought up the land and now that Moshiri has entered the picture finally there is renewed interest and a real appetite from outside investors to start looking into redevelopment. Moshiri is using his worldwide contacts to draw in this interest and as said previously Peel must be secretly delighted at his intervention. It's one thing owning real estate but it's a whole new ball game persuading outside investors to pump in their billions in redevelopment.
If Rotherham tries to overturn this then Liverpool as a city may as well shut up shop.

His job is to bring investment in, not stop it. This is just paranoia.........