New Everton Stadium

[Big Neville Southall]

They all miss the point about what is the best feature at Goodison - overlapping double decker stands.

Obviously we don't want to replicate the posts that hold up the upper bullens and uppper street end and create the obstructed views in the lower tiers, but a similar thing could be achieved with cantilever upper tiers. This is what gives the "close in to the pitch" feel of Goodison and also results in the fantastic views you get from the upper tiers.

Absolutely spot on.

 

[kithnou]

They all miss the point about what is the best feature at Goodison - overlapping double decker stands.

Obviously we don't want to replicate the posts that hold up the upper bullens and uppper street end and create the obstructed views in the lower tiers, but a similar thing could be achieved with cantilever upper tiers. This is what gives the "close in to the pitch" feel of Goodison and also results in the fantastic views you get from the upper tiers.

Tweet Dan Meis mate

 

[kithnou]

#4 is mad.

Good but mad.

I think a large home stand on the east side is quite likely.

Agree. 4 is a proper 4 sided piece of work. And "only" 54k in that design. Add another 7k and we are talking.
4 and 5 are the best for me. Not a fan of the first 3.

 

[JordanianEmbassy]

Tweet Dan Meis mate

haha. I'm not on twitter. I'm would be tempted to if I was though... although tbh he's probably had enough of people bombarding him with suggestions.

 

[nikom court]

bbc propaganda machine trying to block liverpool waters redevelopement on morning news!
comparing it to syria!

 

[navidson]

bbc propaganda machine trying to block liverpool waters redevelopement on morning news!
comparing it to syria!

Not really

The report was about the potential of Unesco withdrawing the heritage status of the waterfront, as they will also be doing with Palmyra and Aleppo

Hmm, feels like a potential spanner doesn't it?

 

[nikom court]

Not really

The report was about the potential of Unesco withdrawing the heritage status of the waterfront, as they will also be doing with Palmyra and Aleppo

Hmm, feels like a potential spanner doesn't it?

the echo and roger phillips will be all over it!

 

[toffee66]

I think aspects of the skyscraper city vision for Liverpool Waters will need to change. I actually think that will only increase the importance of our stadium which is in the edge of the heritage zone but done well (iconic/unusual visually, some red bricks in facade) could help appease the heritage bods.

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

For anyone who doesn't yet know- converting a stadium to have a running track is relatively simple.
There is no moving of seats, it's a false floor that sits on top of the first few rows to seats thus extending the distance to accommodate a running track.
A bit like a scaffolding rig but more high tech.

 

[JordanianEmbassy]

For anyone who doesn't yet know- converting a stadium to have a running track is relatively simple.
There is no moving of seats, it's a false floor that sits on top of the first few rows to seats thus extending the distance to accommodate a running track.
A bit like a scaffolding rig but more high tech.

Although this is correct in principle, I've seen civil engineers and architects discussing this on another forum and it definitely has a huge impact on what you can and can't do. For example if you want overhanging cantilever upper tiers (see my earlier post) it could affect this. It also has an impact on considerations about the steepness and curvature of the stands.

If accommodating a running track results in a the upper tiers being set much further back than it would've been if it was not designed to accommodate athletics then it would be a massive shame IMO.

 

[GwladysBlue]

When are the design/capacity details being released? Feels like we have gone ages without any sort of update.

 

[YellowSweat]

Number 4 is the closest to what Id like to see

 

[kithnou]

Number 4 is the closest to what Id like to see

Good man. That's a proper 4 sided effort. It's 'only' around 54k seats, so imagine that design with an added 6k or so.
@davek you agree mate?
Not a fan of the outside though. Inside is superb.

 

[Gardocki]

For anyone who doesn't yet know- converting a stadium to have a running track is relatively simple.
There is no moving of seats, it's a false floor that sits on top of the first few rows to seats thus extending the distance to accommodate a running track.
A bit like a scaffolding rig but more high tech.

This is not true.

I imagine are using Hampden as an example. It worked there because the stadium is already way back from the pitch with massive curved stands at either end. It was probably designed to accommodate greyhound racing like the old Wembley. It is not just a matter of putting a platform over the first few rows of seats in a purpose built football ground.

As someone else pointed out, it will also impact on the gradient of the upper tiers, their suitability to 'overhang' and their proximity to the pitch. If you ever sit on the upper tier of a stadium with steep stands, it is designed in a way that you only see the pitch but not the lower tier beneath. Putting a track over the lower tiers would be useless, as you wouldn't see it from the adjacent upper tier.

As Dan Meis says, it can be done. Unfortunately, despite the PR lines that have been released, there is no way it can be done without making compromises to the design and keeping costs from escalating to a degree where it wouldn't be cheaper to build a 40,000 athletics stadium somewhere like Stonebridge Cross. I'm sure behind closed doors, allowing Everton to build on the docks site was conditional on it being 'useable' for the CG.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Good man. That's a proper 4 sided effort. It's 'only' around 54k seats, so imagine that design with an added 6k or so.
@davek you agree mate?

Isn't number 4 the design with an alarmingly large amount of red splashed on it? The designers must be kopites. Swerve.