New Everton Stadium
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Duncan Disordely
Player Valuation: £35m
You and me both. Met up with two other blue mates and spent the entire night chatting about Everton and signings.
ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
Sounds good. Really good time to be blue.
toffee66
Player Valuation: £8m
Yes the plans assume > 2000 premium seat fans (50% of total) arrive/leave via car into the car park on the riversde of the stadium so the 57,982 refers to estimated number of fans leaving by foot via the 'fan plaza' on the east side of the stadium to trains, buses, other car parks etc. (very similar how fans funnel from all around the Emirates to the big plaza on one side to head off to tube/bus etc. which was also a Buro Happold project).
RobSpurs
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Think this is more to do with planned crowdflow from the highlighted part of the stadium in the diagram, along the roads outside the stadium. It seems they're expecting/planning many more people to filter out to the south.
If I'm wrong and they are capacities of the stands behind the goals, the capacity of the north stand looks small.
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BirkenheadBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
Not really, it's about 60% bigger than the capacity of the Park End.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £50m
That looks like a stadium fit for FC Sexy!
gorgeousgeorgeEFC
Player Valuation: £25m
The Park End has a capacity of just 5,750. To put that into perspective, Preston's Alan Kelly Town End (Deepdale's smallest all-seater stand) has a capacity of 6,000.
The Park End is minuscule.
gorgeousgeorgeEFC
Player Valuation: £25m
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £35m
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toffee66
Player Valuation: £8m
The North Stand capacity seems to be restricted by the site dimensions. There is only an 11m walkway outside it to the site boundary which is at the narrow end by modern standards which demand vehicle entry & broad fan concourses for safety.To increase capacity you need to increase stand depth, losing paving.
As there is only a 20m gap at the South end and this has to house the car park access road effectively taking half the space (cannot tunnel in a dock) you cannot do much about it.
So the site effectively only allows one deep end in North/South configuration and that layout is needed for a riverside car park and then roadside fan plaza designed to ease rapid entry/exit for fans. Apparently an East-West layout, that better aligns to the site shape, does not easily create car access or a wide fan plaza for pedestrian circulation. These are both key practical design needs.
Explained to me by an architect mate at HOK who works on stadia/arenas. Every design decision creates trade-offs if the site dimensions are a limiting factor as they are at BMD (bigger than Goodison site, smaller than e.g. Emirates space). He thinks what he saw in that document was probably close to optimal space use for the site.
He also thought the elevated 'floating' roof design that seemed to be levered off the mid tier in the side drawings suggests that one or more tiers may be retractable underneath the roof of West & South stands if needed but says cost for that would blow the budget up nearer £500m (thinks it will be £400m not £300m anyway!).
As there is only a 20m gap at the South end and this has to house the car park access road effectively taking half the space (cannot tunnel in a dock) you cannot do much about it.
So the site effectively only allows one deep end in North/South configuration and that layout is needed for a riverside car park and then roadside fan plaza designed to ease rapid entry/exit for fans. Apparently an East-West layout, that better aligns to the site shape, does not easily create car access or a wide fan plaza for pedestrian circulation. These are both key practical design needs.
Explained to me by an architect mate at HOK who works on stadia/arenas. Every design decision creates trade-offs if the site dimensions are a limiting factor as they are at BMD (bigger than Goodison site, smaller than e.g. Emirates space). He thinks what he saw in that document was probably close to optimal space use for the site.
He also thought the elevated 'floating' roof design that seemed to be levered off the mid tier in the side drawings suggests that one or more tiers may be retractable underneath the roof of West & South stands if needed but says cost for that would blow the budget up nearer £500m (thinks it will be £400m not £300m anyway!).
Big Neville Southall
Player Valuation: £8m
That a guess, suggestion or something you know?
BirkenheadBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
But you're comparing BMD's smallest end to Anfield's biggest?
Anfield Road: 9,074
BMD North: 9,650
Anfield Kop: 12,409
BMD South: 16,936
SO what's the issue??
