New Everton Stadium

[joey_macmo]

Like a broken record just gets repeated time and again usually when the teams not doing too well.
He's made mistakes , havent we all.If anyone supports him they are accused of being Happy Clappers.
As Chairmen/ Owners go we could have done a lot worse,go ask Leeds Birmingham & even Rangers fans.
Dont buy this "Blame Bill" for anything and everything.Until the Sugar Daddy comes along it is what it is.

I havent accused anyone of being a happy clapper mate but you've come out with the a lovely yawn comment to something that is entirely relevant.

That argument is awful i could just as easily ask City, Chelsea & Liverpool fans how their current owners are doing.

I dont blame bill for anything and everything, just his failings that have occurred whilst he has been chairman of this football club.

 

[joey_macmo]

I'm not too sure how it works. Is it like corporation tax and spread out over a number of years which in that case if we first built the stadium then a sugar daddy could fund the squad up to the amount that was spent however depending on the rules that may or may not be the case. There might even be ways to cook the books and show from an accounting point of view that the costs of the stadium occur later.

We don't need to sell anyone. The stadium would probably cost 100m or so. We could get a long term loan for a percentage of that and the TV money would do the rest. We just would have to accept that the squad wouldn't get major investment over this time but with maybe one or two new signings and our U21s who show loads of promise that might not be necessarily be the worst thing.

Of course the downside is that players once they reach a certain level will want to leave like what happened to Arsenal. If Wenger hadn't of been saving the money for the stadium Arsenal could have dominated with some of the players they had.

It's the reason why for the first time I can see it happening. We don't actually need anyone else to fund it.

The stadium and infrastructure of the club is exempt from FFP, hence why City can redevelop south Manchester

 

[JordanianEmbassy]

Goodison is our spiritual home. We abandon it at huge emotional cost.

But almost as important is the fact that it can be remodelled despite what the Chairman says. The Park End has enormous potential. The Goodison Road stand can be rebuilt and even Bullens Road could be upgraded.

I've mentioned this earlier in the thread (which has now got huge) so apologies to those who feel I am repeating myself, but when the main stand was built in 1970 they did it in such a way that would help future re-developments. That is why it doesn't line up with the pitch. The general idea would be:

1) Knock down the Park End
2) Move the pitch (towards the Park End) to be inline with the main stand (thus creating room at the Street End...)
3) Build a massive new Park End Stand with executive boxes. (Bear in mind that the Holte End at Villa has a seated capacity of > 13,000)
4) Knock down the Street End and build a new stand taking advantage of the increased space resulting from the pitch move. This would then solve the "church problem" - ie we wouldn't lose so much capacity from the space caused by the church.
5) Re-configure the main stand as follows:
5a) Build a new roof as per the original plans that doesn't need the big posts at the front (thus getting rid of most of the obstructed views)
5b) Add an executive tier below the top balcony (which gets rid of the rest of the obstructed views)
5c) Get rid of the existing lean-to executive boxes at the front and hence "re-claim" all of the enclosure​

The above plan gives us new Park and Street End stands, a reconfigured main stand with no obstructed views, increased capacity, and a significant increase in our corporate capacity, without any need to land take.

The only remaining un-developed stand would be the Bullens road, which in the short term could (and should!) be kept as a heritage Archibald Leitch football stand. Again as mentioned earlier in the thread we could take off the iron-cladding and re-point the brickwork to show it off for the treasure that it is.

Ideas do exist for developing the Bullens Road, but of course this would require land take and re-locating the school, or including it in the new structure.

This is only one version of the Goodison redevelopment options available to us, but they just happen to be the ones that appeal to me. When I find the time I will upload the documents I have which show these plans in more detail.

 

[efcfanwirral]

I've mentioned this earlier in the thread (which has now got huge) so apologies to those who feel I am repeating myself, but when the main stand was built in 1970 they did it in such a way that would help future re-developments. That is why it doesn't line up with the pitch. The general idea would be:

1) Knock down the Park End
2) Move the pitch (towards the Park End) to be inline with the main stand (thus creating room at the Street End...)
3) Build a massive new Park End Stand with executive boxes. (Bear in mind that Holte End at Villa has a seated capacity of > 13,000)
4) Knock down the Steet End and build a new stand taking advantage of the increased space resulting from the pitch move. This would then solve the "church problem" - ie we wouldn't lose so much capacity from the space caused by the church.
5) Re-configure the main stand as follows:
5a) Build a new roof as per the original plans that doesn't need the big posts at the front (thus getting rid of most of the obstructed views)
5b) Add an executive tier below the top balcony (which gets rid of the rest of the obstructed views)
5c) Get rid of the existing lean-to executive boxes at the front and hence "re-claim" all of the enclosure​

The above plan gives us new Park and Street End stands, a reconfigured main stand with no obstructed views, increased capacity, and a significant increase in our corporate capacity, without any need to land take.

The only remaining un-developed stand would be the Bullens road, which in the short term could (and should!) be kept as a heritage Archibald Leitch football stand. Again as mentioned earlier in the thread we could take off the iron-cladding and re-point the brickwork to show it off for the treasure that it is.

Ideas do exist for developing the Bullens Road, but of course this would require land take and re-locating the school, or including it in the new structure.

This is only one version of the Goodison redevelopment options available to us, but they just happen to be the ones that appeal to me. When I find the time I will upload the documents I have which show these plans in more detail.

That all sounds good. And we get to keep the away fans in the absolute worst possible conditions.

Its a shame though, as Bullens Road is terrible in terms of facilities and the Lower Bullens. At least the lower gwladys, main stand and pillars everywhere would be sorted out

 

[S2H]

The only remaining un-developed stand would be the Bullens road, which in the short term could (and should!) be kept as a heritage Archibald Leitch football stand. Again as mentioned earlier in the thread we could take off the iron-cladding and re-point the brickwork to show it off for the treasure that it is.

Ideas do exist for developing the Bullens Road, but of course this would require land take and re-locating the school, or including it in the new structure.

I've always thought that the 'quick win' here would be to lose the lower bullens and replace it with exec boxes, I imagine this would lose loads of the restricted views (and loads of sh1te views that aren't classed as restricted) and increase our corporate offering massively.

Upper bullens restricted views won't be too significant and the view from up there is so good I think it could stay as is.

Of course all of this assumes we can't buy the school and terraced housing behind bullens rd....ideally we'd just extend back that way.

 

[Ruairi77]

I've mentioned this earlier in the thread (which has now got huge) so apologies to those who feel I am repeating myself, but when the main stand was built in 1970 they did it in such a way that would help future re-developments. That is why it doesn't line up with the pitch. The general idea would be:

1) Knock down the Park End
2) Move the pitch (towards the Park End) to be inline with the main stand (thus creating room at the Street End...)
3) Build a massive new Park End Stand with executive boxes. (Bear in mind that Holte End at Villa has a seated capacity of > 13,000)
4) Knock down the Street End and build a new stand taking advantage of the increased space resulting from the pitch move. This would then solve the "church problem" - ie we wouldn't lose so much capacity from the space caused by the church.
5) Re-configure the main stand as follows:
5a) Build a new roof as per the original plans that doesn't need the big posts at the front (thus getting rid of most of the obstructed views)
5b) Add an executive tier below the top balcony (which gets rid of the rest of the obstructed views)
5c) Get rid of the existing lean-to executive boxes at the front and hence "re-claim" all of the enclosure​

The above plan gives us new Park and Street End stands, a reconfigured main stand with no obstructed views, increased capacity, and a significant increase in our corporate capacity, without any need to land take.

The only remaining un-developed stand would be the Bullens road, which in the short term could (and should!) be kept as a heritage Archibald Leitch football stand. Again as mentioned earlier in the thread we could take off the iron-cladding and re-point the brickwork to show it off for the treasure that it is.

Ideas do exist for developing the Bullens Road, but of course this would require land take and re-locating the school, or including it in the new structure.

This is only one version of the Goodison redevelopment options available to us, but they just happen to be the ones that appeal to me. When I find the time I will upload the documents I have which show these plans in more detail.

This plan, to me, makes the most sense. I am a bit confused about how the Bullens road stays the same but the pitch shifts toward the park end. Either way, I think Goodison can be brought up to grade at a price. It needs vision to see the tourism potential in having a ground with a preserved Leitch stand. If the other three sides were developed off the same plans, it could look great!

 

[mrb85]

This plan, to me, makes the most sense. I am a bit confused about how the Bullens road stays the same but the pitch shifts toward the park end. Either way, I think Goodison can be brought up to grade at a price. It needs vision to see the tourism potential in having a ground with a preserved Leitch stand. If the other three sides were developed off the same plans, it could look great!

Scant attention has been given in the past to the Leitch legacy when redeveloping the stadium. The Park End moved completely away from trying to stay in keeping with the traditional GP, likewise before it the Main Stand. Even now blue Leitch-like criss-cross fascia could be put on the front lip of the Upper Balcony for consistency with the Bullens.

 

[blulouie]

Another dyslexic kopite..

Ye ok lad.

 

[blulouie]

I havent accused anyone of being a happy clapper mate but you've come out with the a lovely yawn comment to something that is entirely relevant.

That argument is awful i could just as easily ask City, Chelsea & Liverpool fans how their current owners are doing.

I dont blame bill for anything and everything, just his failings that have occurred whilst he has been chairman of this football club.

As I said mate Until a Sugar Daddy comes along it is what it is mate.

 

[joey_macmo]

As I said mate Until a Sugar Daddy comes along it is what it is mate.

Its not though is it, 2 failed stadium moves. One of which would have seen us prosper in a state of the art iconic stadium the other would have seen us abandon our city for little or no financial reward. Guess which one Kenwright was more in favour of and ask yourself why.

He has chosen his own interests over the clubs in both failed stadium moves so why should we be content to let him preside over a 3rd?

 

[Verbal Kint]

I wouldn't call Kenwright supporters "Happy Clappers", I just wouldn't bother with them full stop. At least we are not Pompey shout's don't wash with me, NSNO don't forget is what we are all about. 2 stadium failure's, selling Finch farm and renting it back, Merchandise department I could go on and on..................

But that's ok, biggest blue nonsense

 

[roydo]

Will be ever so funny on here if this stadium gets built, and is really good.

 

[blulouie]

Its not though is it, 2 failed stadium moves. One of which would have seen us prosper in a state of the art iconic stadium the other would have seen us abandon our city for little or no financial reward. Guess which one Kenwright was more in favour of and ask yourself why.

He has chosen his own interests over the clubs in both failed stadium moves so why should we be content to let him preside over a 3rd?

Listen Joe I cant wait for us to be sold so we can compete again.
But the Kenwright thing has been hashed & rehashed that many times mate.
The guy & his cohorts are clearly not the ones to take us any further than we are now.
"We" can bleat ,moan,fume and even hold him accountable for his mistakes.
We can even try to pressurise him to resign but you & I know he wont.
So until a cash rich suitor comes in we are stuck with him...nothings gonna change mate.

 

[bluesteak]

Close the thread,I'm sick of it,nothing will ever happen,it's no coincidence that the season tickets are coming up for renewal,can't believe people fall for it every year.
Only when greedy bill, makes a killing on his investment in 'our club',not his,will a new stadium materialise.

 

[magicjuan]

Ye ok lad.

YAWN YNWA dislexyia... Capiche?