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New Everton Stadium

Dabluez said:
A 45k Stadium would cost around half the cost of a 60k Stadium.
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It would not! Large or small you still have the same changing rooms, hospitality, the pitch, you can go on and on. For example the roof would not cost twice as much as would it only have to be 10-15% larger etc. You might be able to enlarge the exits by a couple of feet to allow 10 more rows to be added to a tier, you might not need any more staircases to deal with loading. It is all in the design but to a point the more seats you add the cheaper the build is per seat.
 
MickA said:
Anything to back that claim up? Starting from a dock filled with water it's quite a statement.
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Have a think about the location of those extra seats. Up in the Gods and what you have to build underneath to support them. Have a think about how poor the view will be and how much of a discount you will have to offer to fill them week in week out. Then think about how much of a drag on the Clubs finances those seats will be if you don't fill them.
 
Dabluez said:
Have a think about the location of those extra seats. Up in the Gods and what you have to build underneath to support them. Have a think about how poor the view will be and how much of a discount you will have to offer to fill them week in week out. Then think about how much of a drag on the Clubs finances those seats will be if you don't fill them.
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I am sure Moshiri et al have given it some thought mate.
 

Dabluez said:
No we can't. Everyone in the Premier League gets the TV money. What differentiates the top Clubs from the bottom Clubs is the rest of your income. United and Arsenal for instance have match day incomes of around £100m. Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool will in the near future meet or surpass those kind of figures. They earn huge amounts from ticket prices AND make money from retail/hospitality.

Then there is the cost of actually paying for the Stadium. If you add 20,000 seats for say £600m then that money needs to repaid.

A new Stadium only makes sense if it increases our income and allows us to compete because under FFP and the Premier League fair play rules Moshiri can only bankroll us for so long.

BMD can't simply be a vanity project it needs to make financial sense. At the moment we should forget about looking to one up the RS and look at what makes financial sense for Everton. That means upping our revenue per seat and adding Corporate/Hospitality facilities. We need a Stadium that we can fill week in week out and a Stadium that allows us to charge higher prices.

There is no such thing as a free lunch. The priority has to be the team and being successful. A state of the art scaleable Stadium with great facilities that holds 45-50k makes far more sense. It will mean lower repayments meaning more can be spent on players. It will mean we can drive up revenue per seat which is crucial and it will be far less risky.

Build the fan base, improve the team, increase revenues and expand the Stadium as we grow. It might not be sexy but it worked for United and it can work for us.
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"A state of the art scaleable Stadium with great facilities that holds 45-50k makes far more sense."

Jaw drops. (n)
 
Dabluez said:
Have a think about the location of those extra seats. Up in the Gods and what you have to build underneath to support them. Have a think about how poor the view will be and how much of a discount you will have to offer to fill them week in week out. Then think about how much of a drag on the Clubs finances those seats will be if you don't fill them.
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Better tell Wembley/Twickenham/Millennium stadium et all to start pulling down all the rows at the top, Dabluez has spoken.

By the way even the top row of the millennium is perfectly a good seat and far better than a lot of what we currently have.
 

Dabluez said:
A 45k Stadium would cost around half the cost of a 60k Stadium. We could still have the same amount of hospitality/corporate facilities. The debt repayments would be much lower there would be far less risk, we could invest more in the team and the biggest kicker is the push for safe standing. With safe standing you get a 60k Stadium for the price of a 45k Stadium, you can charge lower prices and you get a better atmosphere.

As we improve we can add on more capacity as we need it. Currently under 11s pay £5 a game, 11-17 year olds pay £8 a game, 17-21's pay £16 a game, 22-24's and over 65's pay £20 a game. Full price season tickets start at £23 a game. Those figures simply don't pay for a £600m Stadium.
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But what's the point in 45k if, as you Say, you're gonna add to it anyway. And adding to it once built is going to be more expensive than just doing it in a one'er.

Safe standing isn't even close to being approved in the PL so it's a none issue for me. I'm sure rail seating can be added fairly cheaply if we want to go down that route, or have a section earmarked for it if it is ever approved for the English top flight.

And you're naive in the extreme if you think we aren't going to increase ticket prices. For arguments sake, how are we going to invest more in the team if we build a 45k stadia with better corporate but the same prices as Goodison? The increase in expendable cash doing that is going to be negligible. More corporate in a stadium that size isn't going to raise you enough to challenge in the market.

We have a once in lifetime chance to move to a prime location on a world renowned waterfront. Why build something mediocre. Aim high.
 
jaybx1878 said:
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The new Zenit Stadum looks good, 67,000 with a retractable roof. Something like this but with a single tier stand behind one goal would do us, probably out of our price range though.
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Now that's close.
I'd prefer some double decker stands but well done Zenit.
 

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