I look forward to when the stadium is built and Dave complains that there aren’t enough toilets. Or the beer is rubbish. Or the seats are made of plastic etc etc
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Or it's too new, don't like the water nearby, can't swim etc.
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
I believe that was already built before they bought into Arsenal.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The "constant" though is finances...or lack of them. We have always struggled on that and Everton's position isn't vastly different now that Moshiri is here. Look at the changes made already to the architecture of the funding model. Moshiri cant and wont bridge that gap between cash found via investment and any shortfall. As an institution we must, because of our insipid commercail potential, be seen as a poor risk. Indebted to tv companies for payments in advance, potential debt to a local council to take care of. Lenders will continue to run a mile.
Nothing fundamental has changed I'm afraid. I wish it had, but it hasn't.
You do realise those facts don’t suit the agenda and therefore will be ignored
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Poppycock man! It has vastly changed, before we had a big overdraft that we had to beg the bank to let us go into some more to buy any players.
It is quite clear we don't have that issue and before you say TV money, there are no other clubs apart from the 3 that you expect that are spending more than us. This may stop at any point, but if he invests the same again as what we has already + the council offer (if we have to fall back on that) could see a stadium built.
In the past I would agree that we didn't have a pot to pee in. Now the evidence suggests otherwise.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The problem before was the prudential loan. Yes.
However, the club still have outstanding rolling loans. The main issue though is commercial revenues capable of anchoring huge capital investment the club needs to raise. We dont have it. And you may as well bark at the moon as protest we do.
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
With all the present turmoil out there, I can see this stadium build being put on a backburner.
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £50m
The only reason i don't think it will be is Kenwright. He just can't afford to be involved with another failed stadium move, it would be the final nail in his coffin as far as the fans are concerned imo.
I don't reckon Kenwright will have that much input to whether the stadium move fails or succeeds (it all comes down to Moshiri because he's now the main man) and we can pin many things on Kenwright, but it would be totally out of order for fans to put any blame on him if the moved failed.
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £35m
I'm not sure what reason the construction industry has to have any faith in this stadium being built beyond having information that suggests it will be built. They don't have to appease any fans, if they don't think that its going to get built, then why would they bother doing anything on it? I'm not talking about the likes of Buro Happold, Shephard Robson or Meis. I mean why would companies who currently have no involvement be spending overheads on preparing to bid on a project that according to you is so obviously going to fail? Certainly when the margins are so tight. In a world when selective tendering is a huge factor so as to maximise profit percentage, they aren't going to select a project that the Client "knows is a shot in the dark".
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £50m
That maybe true, but i doubt very much he will want to be around if it does fail because there is no doubt glances will be in his direction to some extent. Also people keep saying about him not doing anything anymore and Moshiri being in charge, clearly he does do something otherwise he has no reason to be here unless he is just getting a massive freebie from the club, who knows, id like to see the club going about it's business without him lurking around in the background though.
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Yes outstanding loans that are cleared off at the end of each season by Moshiri. It is easy to see we are in a different world compared to where we were.
Granted you are right that our commercial income is still not what it should be but a new stadium helps with that. At the end of the day it is up to Moshiri to ensure he can get the finance and if he prepared to underwrite some of it to enable the repayments to be at a level we can easily afford. That's what the banks and investors will be looking at.
...last I heard was plans and the next consultation phase next Summer, so I expect plans and the next consultation phase will be next summer.
Lots of chatter on here before then.
Lots of chatter on here before then.
Hopefully we name it The Davek Stadium.