New Everton Stadium

[Sheepted]

How much do you reckon a stadium makes from hosting a concert,I haven't a clue really but would guess about 20%.

 

[AndyC]

How much do you reckon a stadium makes from hosting a concert,I haven't a clue really but would guess about 20%.

Venues like the Manchester Arena and the O2 take a 25% cut of all merchandise sales, so the cut of the ticket sales is likely to be of a similar percentage.

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

https://toffeeweb.com/season/18-19/comment/editorial/37595.html

Brilliant piece. He completely destroyed the case for a small 52,000 ground.

 

[orly]

Lots of numbers and figures and guesstimates in that article eh Lou so it's tough at this stage to see what would make most sense financially.

Hopefully we find out in the not too distant future

It's written by @The Esk , so no surprises there

 

[degsy]

I applaud the esk's central position on the need for greater capacity - the need to keep down the burden of cost on fans in repaying and servicing stadium debt. I'm still of the opinion though that the settled on capacity will be larger than 52,000 (probably nearer 55,000). I cant see it being less than DK's proposed capacity, as that would be a source of embarrassment.

It's clear though that the club will have to work the facility hard and bring in a lot of non-football events. And they weren't factored in. A BMD facility wouldn't face the same event-license restrictions, presumably, that Anfield does right smack bang in the middle of a residential area, and the proximity to the city centre would make it a draw transportation-wise. It's clear LFC see that source of income as the key for the next period of their stadium development.

And the £77 ticket price they tried and failed to make stick...which led to the cancellation of Big Stand Mk II aka the anny rd end

 

[davek]

And the £77 ticket price they tried and failed to make stick...which led to the cancellation of Big Stand Mk II aka the anny rd end

FSG's plan was to get more revenue from ticketing. They faced a backlash over matchday ticketing and went all out for a license for a lot of live music events.

 

[Verbal Kint]

https://toffeeweb.com/season/18-19/comment/editorial/37595.html

I see the Esk has taking his Talents to Toffeeweb..

Perfect match

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

If the capacity is only going to be 52,000 then the number of corporates/hospitality seats will have to be lower than the 5,000 that appears to have been in the original scoping -- and therein is the predicament.
What doesn't appear to have been fed into the decision over capacity is the 'new stadium effect' which has occurred at all new grounds and at all levels of football. Leicester City is one such example. In their last season at Filbert St the average gate was around 19,500, a fairly typical average for them. Since moving they have never had a single league gate below 20,000 and the initial uplift was of the order of 20%, a figure matched at many new grounds elsewhere. So even factoring in something like a 15% uplift at BM on the non-corporate/hospitality capacity at GP takes the absolute minimum new capacity requirement to around 45,000. The corporate capacity then takes it 50,000. And that's before allowing for the current excess demand for tickets -- even with a team that has won nothing in 23 years!
There is a view that the lower than expected capacity is a consequence of access and transport issues. But if so then that's been a somewhat belated realisation and so is surely an unlikely explanation.
I prefer one alternative explanation, the one in which the current controllers of Everton Football Club are seeing the new stadium primarily as a catalyst and a massive investment opportunity for the development of the whole north area, a development in which Moshiri, Usmanov, and other associates of extreme wealth would then hope to lead from the front in the attraction of the necessary investment. On this basis the actual capacity becomes of relatively less significance.

Great post.

 

[summerisle]

So, no nearer then.

 

[GwladysBlue]

In poor form?

GET A MEANINGLESS UPDATE ABOUT THE SMALL STADIUM OUT!

 

[maccavennie]

So, no nearer then.

I think it sounds to me though that people have seen the numbers and figures and it looks a goer.

Small steps mate but it's better than none

 

[wainy]

I think it sounds to me though that people have seen the numbers and figures and it looks a goer.

Small steps mate but it's better than none

Yeah I think it's just a case of making sure this gets through planning with no hiccups or silly oversights. Looking forward to seeing the designs come summer, although no doubt on here it will be dubbed the worst design ever seen.

 

[havrey0123]

120m in preparation costs before the work on the stadium even begins

 

[mrb85]

120m in preparation costs before the work on the stadium even begins

Mirrors the playing side of things....

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

So, no nearer then.

“You can have the most brilliant design in the world but you can’t get away from the fact that you need the money to do it!” Harris said.

No sh*t Sherlock!