New Everton Stadium

[D410]

http://www.efcsa.org/2014/04/24/stadium-update-general-meeting/

I think the shareholders at the AGM would be well within there rights to offer a vote of no confidence in the club managing another infrastructure project after all the infrastructure failures on record. Second, I would not even bother getting taken in again by the club for the thrid time untill we know who will fund the project?, how much? and is another NDA already in place or about to used again.

Frankly speaking they can,t be trusted.

 

[ElPorto]

http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport...iver-new-stadium-search-update-next-week.html

"Stadium location and securing funding are critical to the Everton project. Whilst rumours and opinion abound about the potential location, staying within the city is a must; our Chairman Bill Kenwright favours Walton Hall Park."

Walton Hall Park would be good. Only down the road and loads of room.... Watch this space...

 

[D410]

Well, I believe thankfully to that new big TV deal, we should have enough money to make these plans after a new stadium a realistic scenario. Kirkby could cost us £80M, King's dock stadium was in total costs £125M. I believe, we could fund a stadium with a cost of around £150M quite realistically and keep our team competitive in better than Everton way as well, this time in coming years.

We are getting extra £30M per year from the new Premier League TV deal and that is a huge thing for us. With these money we already know we are going to make a redevelopment in Finch Farm, let's say we will invest there £10M every year from 2014 to 2017. From 2017 we can invest these £10M into a new stadium. Let's say we will take a £100M loan and then we will pay £10M every year till 2028. The extra £5M per year we should definetely get from selling name rights and by selling of Goodison Park. And the best thing about this, we are still having these £20M every year to buy new players and to absorb coming rises of wage bill.

Plus, if we have a new stadium in 2020 ready, we should get at least a few million more every year from it than from Goodison total revenue - it was projected £6M revenue rise in Kirkby, could be more with a better stadium in the city. If we are optimistic, we could get extra £10M per year in revenue from the new stadium alone. In other words = extra £10M on new players after 2028 when we would pay off all our debts, and between 2020 and 2028 our new stadium would pay itself off.

What do you guys think?

So you would be happy to see the club playing in a cowshed (because that’s what it will be for 100-150m) and pay of a cowshed debt till 2028? How about we find new owners who know how to successfully deliver infrastructure projects and can deliver a new ground that the team will be proud to play in and be watched by the fans for the next 100 years.

or should we just play it cheap and help the owners to increase their shareholder value and allow them to disappear into the horizon once they have sold us off and left us to play a no mark flat pack ground.

 

[Justice05]

Well, I believe thankfully to that new big TV deal, we should have enough money to make these plans after a new stadium a realistic scenario. Kirkby could cost us £80M, King's dock stadium was in total costs £125M. I believe, we could fund a stadium with a cost of around £150M quite realistically and keep our team competitive in better than Everton way as well, this time in coming years.

We are getting extra £30M per year from the new Premier League TV deal and that is a huge thing for us. With these money we already know we are going to make a redevelopment in Finch Farm, let's say we will invest there £10M every year from 2014 to 2017. From 2017 we can invest these £10M into a new stadium. Let's say we will take a £100M loan and then we will pay £10M every year till 2028. The extra £5M per year we should definetely get from selling name rights and by selling of Goodison Park. And the best thing about this, we are still having these £20M every year to buy new players and to absorb coming rises of wage bill.

Plus, if we have a new stadium in 2020 ready, we should get at least a few million more every year from it than from Goodison total revenue - it was projected £6M revenue rise in Kirkby, could be more with a better stadium in the city. If we are optimistic, we could get extra £10M per year in revenue from the new stadium alone. In other words = extra £10M on new players after 2028 when we would pay off all our debts, and between 2020 and 2028 our new stadium would pay itself off.

What do you guys think?

No offence mate but you are not getting a new ground for £150 million, Liverpool are paying £100 million for an extension to an already existing stand.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Season ticket time is it....... WE going to fall for this ale sh**e again. next there'll be a take over, then we'll be bidding for top players..

Kenwright must sit in his office, laughing his cock off at how thick Evertonians are. The fact he pulls the same old trick every year....

Before you start calling Evertonians maybe you should step back from your keyboard and have a think about what you're typing.

As if you're seriously suggesting that Evertonians would decide to renew their pass off the back of a council official talking about the possibility of a new ground scheme being put on the table, then it's you that's 'challenged' mate

 

[bicycleheader]

Before you start calling Evertonians maybe you should step back from your keyboard and have a think about what you're typing.

As if you're seriously suggesting that Evertonians would decide to renew their pass off the back of a council official talking about the possibility of a new ground scheme being put on the table, then it's you that's 'challenged' mate

Bang on, I hear that point put about as if fact. Im not saying the board dont spout bull about new stadiums, i have no clue whether they do or not, but I would imagine the vast majority of fans are either fans who will renew regardless or who will have to think each year simply about whether they can afford it.

You may get some who will stop going because of lack of direction or some such idea, and then maaaaaybe come back with the news of a new stadium but id say you could count them on the fingers of a one-armed man.

 

[Watch this space]

Bang on, I hear that point put about as if fact. Im not saying the board dont spout bull about new stadiums, i have no clue whether they do or not, but I would imagine the vast majority of fans are either fans who will renew regardless or who will have to think each year simply about whether they can afford it.

You may get some who will stop going because of lack of direction or some such idea, and then maaaaaybe come back with the news of a new stadium but id say you could count them on the fingers of a one-armed man.

Well that's 4 fingers your down to now

 

[bicycleheader]

Well that's 4 fingers your down to now

hahaha

when did you stop going, and when did you come back?

 

[bicycleheader]

Like @D410 said how could you trust this board to manage a project like this, and if you had stopped going before or decided to stop going, why would you come back on the word of the same board?

I don't see it myself, the vast hordes of duped Evertonians buying season tickets on the rumours of a new stadium.

 

[Tubey]

Think this is one of those things we're always going to be sceptical about. Even the day of the first match you wouldn't believe the stadium was built, or you'd think it belonged to someone else and Kenwright messed the lease up or something.

One of those where if it happens, great, if it doesn't, no surprise, but not worth building any hopes whatsoever about it as it's more than likely to result in nothing again.

 

[Tubey]

Like @D410 said how could you trust this board to manage a project like this, and if you had stopped going before or decided to stop going, why would you come back on the word of the same board?

I don't see it myself, the vast hordes of duped Evertonians buying season tickets on the rumours of a new stadium.

Not for the exciting football and talented players on the books?

I doubt there would be even one Evertonian who thinks "get in, we might or might not be getting a new stadium five years down the line, let's get a season ticket for next season!"

 

[Watch this space]

hahaha

when did you stop going, and when did you come back?

Stopped my ST 2 seasons ago,said I wouldn't renew unless BK and his cronies moved on.
Pick and choose games now,but was seriously tempted to renew after watching RM revolution.
Think ongoing success and a new stadium may twist my arm again......we shall see.
Won't be completely happy until BK goes though

 

[cjuk87]

Remember when they put a kings dock bit in the season ticket book that year.

I personally think this time something may come of it, simply because of the tv money and because we're already doing well, so the usual jarg to help sell isn't needed this year.

 

[bicycleheader]

Stopped my ST 2 seasons ago,said I wouldn't renew unless BK and his cronies moved on.
Pick and choose games now,but was seriously tempted to renew after watching RM revolution.
Think ongoing success and a new stadium may twist my arm again......we shall see.
Won't be completely happy until BK goes though

Well fair play for your principled stand, but coming back for the Bobby magic is a different thing than just coming back on mythical tales of golden stadiums in the sun.
That line gets repeated a lot in here.

..well not that exact line, but you know

 

[RaleighBlue]

Stopped my ST 2 seasons ago,said I wouldn't renew unless BK and his cronies moved on.
Pick and choose games now,but was seriously tempted to renew after watching RM revolution.
Think ongoing success and a new stadium may twist my arm again......we shall see.
Won't be completely happy until BK goes though

So the rumors of the new stadium haven't caused you to repurchase a season ticket on their own? So the scheme doesn't work.

I think @bicycleheader was saying that it's silly to think this works because no one re-buys a season ticket on a rumor of a new stadium. Now if we get a new stadium and you repurchase, fair dos, but that still means that the conspiracy of talking up a new stadium to get people to renew season tickets is a fallacy. People don't renew season tickets because of rumors that maybe, somehow, someday, somewhere we may get a new stadium.

In fact, I'm pretty sure most of us expect to be a Goodison until the government shutters the place for being unsafe. But we live in hope.