New Everton Stadium

[tmgc]

maybe we could all these chaps from syria to build it on the cheap? come on bill think outside the box

They're brilliant at knocking down ancient monuments to be fair, does Goodison fall into that category yet?

 

[Ashtonian]

I've just pointed out to you the club designed that in house and it's not half arsed, in fact it's far from half arsed and is in fact one of the best sporting facilities in Europe. Therefore there's no reason to expect them to cut corners and deliver a sub standard stadium as you're predicting.

except designing a training ground and a new stadium are two massively different things.

the stadium will cost more than the club is worth to build, or it should do anyway. And we can always move training ground if we so wished, the stadium is there for decades to come. so my point is, if we can build 20 corporate areas to rival top clubs but will cvost an extra 20 million to include, or 1 million for 10, the club may go for the 10, as its simply more than what we have now. Therefore over everything in the stadium if they went for the cheaper option each time we could end up with a sub par stadium under the guise of it being better than goodison.

 

[ijjysmith]

I've just pointed out to you the club designed that in house and it's not half arsed, in fact it's far from half arsed and is in fact one of the best sporting facilities in Europe. Therefore there's no reason to expect them to cut corners and deliver a sub standard stadium as you're predicting.

Wouldn't it be almost impossible to make a crap stadium too? Like even a Riverside, St Mary's, Pride Park (or whatever it's called now) lego build-your-own identical stadium would do a job.

Not that I want that, but it would do.

 

[MickA]

I've just pointed out to you the club designed that in house and it's not half arsed, in fact it's far from half arsed and is in fact one of the best sporting facilities in Europe. Therefore there's no reason to expect them to cut corners and deliver a sub standard stadium as you're predicting.

Regarding the stadium in the absence of facts we can only go on past records. Their last stadium they budgeted for a £78m build. It doesn't take a genius, in the absence of any re-financing or investment, to guess that a similar cheap build is being planned this time too.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Regarding the stadium in the absence of facts we can only go on past records. Their last stadium they budgeted for a £78m build. It doesn't take a genius, in the absence of any re-financing or investment, to guess that a similar cheap build is being planned this time too.

There a massive difference in our finances between then and now.

 

[MickA]

Wouldn't it be almost impossible to make a crap stadium too? Like even a Riverside, St Mary's, Pride Park (or whatever it's called now) lego build-your-own identical stadium would do a job.

Not that I want that, but it would do.

Theoretically, yes it will do. It will allow people to go and watch a football match.

But it would have zero to do with the history and traditions of EFC. Does mediocrity really have its claws that deep into our fanbase these days???

 

[barneygumble]

It's a really important point that and one unfortunately I'm sure we'll still be discussing in 2020.

It's true.

As 'magical' as Goodison is (I for one, don't actually think it is), it's not sustainable anymore.

We all know this. It's just a crying shame, that Kenwright appears to just be sitting on his basket of eggs, and waiting for himself to peg out to make it someone elses problem. Yes, I sound like a broken record, but I live in Maghull (cue heckling), but when i go running every morning, I can just see Anfields new stand structure, and it makes me sick that we're not doing anything about it, but we're happy to take £41+ off fans for the derby to have views like...

£1 off a non-obstructed view seat. Disgusting.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

except designing a training ground and a new stadium are two massively different things.

the stadium will cost more than the club is worth to build, or it should do anyway. And we can always move training ground if we so wished, the stadium is there for decades to come. so my point is, if we can build 20 corporate areas to rival top clubs but will cvost an extra 20 million to include, or 1 million for 10, the club may go for the 10, as its simply more than what we have now. Therefore over everything in the stadium if they went for the cheaper option each time we could end up with a sub par stadium under the guise of it being better than goodison.

Again you've got no way of knowing this, and previously the club has produced the best they possibly could have.

 

[MickA]

There a massive difference in our finances between then and now.

Is there? Please enlighten us.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Is there? Please enlighten us.

There's a finances thread for that.

 

[ijjysmith]

Theoretically, yes it will do. It will allow people to go and watch a football match.

But it would have zero to do with the history and traditions of EFC. Does mediocrity really have its claws that deep into our fanbase these days???

Not at all mate, as I said I wouldn't want one of those lego stadiums. It was just to point out that it would be quite hard to not build a decent new stadium. Even our board couldn't mess it up.

 

[barneygumble]

Oh yeah... Barnsley have more corporate facilities than we do.

 

[maccavennie]

It's true.

As 'magical' as Goodison is (I for one, don't actually think it is), it's not sustainable anymore.

We all know this. It's just a crying shame, that Kenwright appears to just be sitting on his basket of eggs, and waiting for himself to peg out to make it someone elses problem. Yes, I sound like a broken record, but I live in Maghull (cue heckling), but when i go running every morning, I can just see Anfields new stand structure, and it makes me sick that we're not doing anything about it, but we're happy to take £41+ off fans for the derby to have views like...

£1 off a non-obstructed view seat. Disgusting.

Bloody good views them mate, on each one you can see a bit of the goal.

No pleasing some people.

 

[MickA]

There's a finances thread for that.

And we're discussing financing a stadium here in the new stadium thread. We're not in any kind of better position now with respect to financing a stadium than we were in 2009 when DK was destroyed.

Just listen to Elstone, it's the same, tired rhetoric. Enabling partners, naming rights etc.

 

[maccavennie]

imo these arse bandits in charge haven't got any form of a long term plan except to do nothing. That's what's happened for years,that's what will probably continue to happen.

I resigned myself long ago that the situation will never change without a new board in charge.

Kings Dock was the one for us, massive opportunity missed for the future of our club.