New Everton Stadium

[charlie atkins]

We need to be able to move 1000s of people post game, from A to B...and maybe A to C in about 90mins.

Who is going to provide all the buses, taxis, trains or coaches for those 90mins...and what are they going to do with them when the football crowds are not using them.
Its not like 40yrs ago when the Corpy had a vast fleet of buses and they could park up ten or twelve, No. 3s, 19s, 20s 25s, 30s, and 46s etc.for the rush.
Build it and they will come
But how will they go?

Just sayin like.

it will be the same buses and taxis that are at goodison now,they wont all pack up will they

 

[blueboy1945]

Assuming I'm still alive and reasonably fit when BMD opens (I'm 74 now) my daughters fella and me will do it in style just for one match, 1st class train from Cheltenham, 2 nights in The Titanic and the dearest tickets we can afford. It will be amazing!!

 

[NorthernBlue]

Assuming I'm still alive and reasonably fit when BMD opens (I'm 74 now) my daughters fella and me will do it in style just for one match, 1st class train from Cheltenham, 2 nights in The Titanic and the dearest tickets we can afford. It will be amazing!!

Then Norwich beat us 2-0 despite having no shots on target.

 

[Bluelladevil]

With the strong winds we have had this week it makes you think that they should be constructing the stadium with a roof that can close. Presumably a lot more expensive but by the river the wind will be ferocious.

 

[blulouie]

With the strong winds we have had this week it makes you think that they should be constructing the stadium with a roof that can close. Presumably a lot more expensive but by the river the wind will be ferocious.

As long as the wind comes straight accross the Mersey it'll be fine....it'll blow the smell from the Poo Factory back up to Anfield.

 

[Jacko93]

I get all the above, but still need convincing that they and their ilk have the spare capacity and the financial will to carry this spare capicity during its 9 day out of 10 day downtime.

Though I dare say it will eventually work its self out...eventually

This isn't just the stadium. The plan is for the area to become a financial/business hub. The infrastructure will be there to support that through the week, the same infrastructure will be there to support the stadium at the weekend. Buses line up at Lime Street now for the LFC homes games, or the Anfield shows.

 

[GwladysPhil]

Can't believe it took the club until only a couple of years ago to put extra busses straight to lime st, for years there was only one and you had to leave early to get it.

 

[Baldynut]

This isn't just the stadium. The plan is for the area to become a financial/business hub. The infrastructure will be there to support that through the week, the same infrastructure will be there to support the stadium at the weekend. Buses line up at Lime Street now for the LFC homes games, or the Anfield shows.

Any idea why the plans are taking so long to go on the portal?

 

[Jacko93]

I don't see how 1:1 is experimenting. It's literally the same amount of people. No different to fans who stand up now. If they're experimenting with safe standing, it should be at a 1:1.2 ratio or even 1:1.1.

The ratio isn't based upon how many people you can fit on the terrace, its based upon the amount of people you can safely fit on the concourse, and have the amenities to service.

At existing grounds, such as Goodison for example, you could add another level onto the park end, double the amount of seats and have steps leading up to the top. You wouldn't be allowed to let people sit there. Apart from it likely having fairly suspect structural properties, you can still only get amount of people in eth concourse it was originally designed for.

The site at BMD is constrained. We could design a ground that has concourse space for ~60k fans, but only seating for 52k, assuming Rail seating in areas can go to 1:1.8 (as Dortmund, with 2 standing rows per seated row). Or we could have seating for 55k fans, with concourse space for 55k, meaning that rail seating can then only be 1:1. As a person standing in an aisle realistically takes up approx 545mm width, while a seat takes 465mm width, the actual realistic ratio would then be slightly below the seated capacity, at about 1:0.8.

These are the issues facing existing grounds, concourse and amenity provision, not number of seats.

 

[blueblue]

I don't see how 1:1 is experimenting. It's literally the same amount of people. No different to fans who stand up now. If they're experimenting with safe standing, it should be at a 1:1.2 ratio or even 1:1.1.

It is experimental because it means that everybody is standing rather than sitting.
They will be able to study supporters entering and leaving and see if there is any difference to a completely seated section i.e maybe people come later or possibly try to leave more quickly causing a build up. They can see how crowds react when goals are scored or conceded and they can gradually increase the density if it is safe to do so.

 

[blueblue]

The ratio isn't based upon how many people you can fit on the terrace, its based upon the amount of people you can safely fit on the concourse, and have the amenities to service.

At existing grounds, such as Goodison for example, you could add another level onto the park end, double the amount of seats and have steps leading up to the top. You wouldn't be allowed to let people sit there. Apart from it likely having fairly suspect structural properties, you can still only get amount of people in eth concourse it was originally designed for.

The site at BMD is constrained. We could design a ground that has concourse space for ~60k fans, but only seating for 52k, assuming Rail seating in areas can go to 1:1.8 (as Dortmund, with 2 standing rows per seated row). Or we could have seating for 55k fans, with concourse space for 55k, meaning that rail seating can then only be 1:1. As a person standing in an aisle realistically takes up approx 545mm width, while a seat takes 465mm width, the actual realistic ratio would then be slightly below the seated capacity, at about 1:0.8.

These are the issues facing existing grounds, concourse and amenity provision, not number of seats.

I wish I had ready your reply before I tried to do so.

 

[arch stanton]

Anybody mentioned Monorail lately?

you've got a one track mind lad

 

[wba83]

Assuming I'm still alive and reasonably fit when BMD opens (I'm 74 now) my daughters fella and me will do it in style just for one match, 1st class train from Cheltenham, 2 nights in The Titanic and the dearest tickets we can afford. It will be amazing!!

Run on when we score mate like the legend in sharpies derby

 

[Toffee-nerd]

Ancelloti's recent comments really do reinforce Usmanovs involvement to me. He says the first part of the project is the stadium. Realistically how much additional revenue would we be looking at for gate receipts and premium/box seats after a move into BMD? I look at Arsenal, who are London based and have some of the highest ticket prices in Europe and have to say surely not enough to give us a platform to launch us up the league. It's clear given everything that's going on with USM, Megafon, the naming rights option etc that the stadium will be used as an opportunity to massively grow our sponsorship revenue with backing from Usmanov and co without being hindered by FFP.

 

[Toffee-nerd]

I am EXCITED