Since we have a waiting list pretty much answers it don’t you think?
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Since we have a waiting list pretty much answers it don’t you think?
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
AsiaAsia82
Player Valuation: £35m
I thought at first you meant ‘poorest’ as in always booing and negativity!!
I think whatever the prices are in Goodison they are probably going to do a feeeze as a PR stunt when we move over hopefully
and with 53k hopefully evolving to 55k as the ground develops I hopevthere could be room for lower priced tickets
RobSpurs
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Why?
Juve are not a Prem club, they're in a basketcase league in comparison. They could sell themselves short with their stadium capacity and still end up with a stadium that generates easily the biggest matchday revenue in Serie A, meaning regular CL and all the rest of it. That's because they're still pretty much the only Italian club that owns its own stadium and controls its own revenue streams. If you dropped them into the Prem, their matchday revenue would be 7th in the league, and I reckon their fans would be asking why they didn't build something a bit bigger.
Sorry, but no English club can afford to sell itself short in this way. If there are good reasons for your stadium being 52k as opposed to 10k bigger (can't afford bigger, can't fit it on BMD) then fine. But if you're leaving anything on the table for no good reason with this stadium, that just leaves you that bit further behind the competition in the Prem, wheras in Italy Juve are in the really lucky position where doing the same means they're not quite as far ahead of the rest as they otherwise might be.
Funny that, as they are obviously not bothered about us, probably done everything and still are, humanly possible to derail our stadium plans. They wouldn't even have a stadium if not for us. Champions league holders, probably premier league winners this year and still all they think of is us..
trueblue84
Player Valuation: £50m
Disagree with this, tbh. More and more English teams don't even need to rely on match day revenue anymore.
Why build a massive stadium when your target audience lives in Africa/America/ Asia?
The demographic in the north is different to london (look at our ticket prices compared to arsenal/spurs).
Realistically if not unfortunately, I doubt there'll be any reduction in prices bar perhaps a few token cheap tickets available across the year - what the shower did.
It would be great if there was a ticket freeze and this is more realistic possibility in the short-term, however I'm expecting at least some increases in prices.
Fortunately, the tickets in the Lower Street End, where I sit, are the joint lowest (bar Family Enclosure), so even if they went up 10%-20% it would be perfectly fine.
To be fair, even a 30% increase, which is very unlikely, to £630 wouldn't be too unjust; however, I can see some jumps in other areas such as side of the pitch.
If they put prices to say £700-800 for such tickets, would people still pay for them? That's the million pound(s) question.
Wat Tyler
Player Valuation: £70m
What parts of the city were asked? If it’s the City Centre of course there’s more reds cos it’s full of foreigners and wools
All water under the bridge now.Ok, ok. I was exaggerating a tad. 1/4 of a mile radius around Goodison then...
But I've seen drawings for the then proposed new unobstructed view Bullens Roof and basically all they we stealing was the pavement and a bit of road to put the new cantiliver supports on.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Once the site became available, (and the attendant docks development became clearer), the size of the site, plus height issues due to World Heritage requirements kinda drove the seating number. Apparently, iirc, getting another 10000 seats in was not impossible, but the additional costs made it economically, a bit silly.
I think most are reconciled with that. It will always be on the docks, (important in our part of the world), but will never be the biggest.
RobSpurs
Player Valuation: £2.5m
That's fine, and makes sense, I just don't think the Juve argument really works that's all.
Is there any pics anywhere of the concourse of the South Stand upper tier showing of the view is looking right back over towards the Pier Head? Any images confirming if the glass structure on top of the West Stand building is some kind of corporate hospitality overlooking the Mersey?
There's so many documents and it's updating daily I wouldn't know where to look for this kind of thing
There's so many documents and it's updating daily I wouldn't know where to look for this kind of thing
adsmad
Player Valuation: £500k
Some interesting points from the Design Access Statement:
7.8.3 General Admission The Stadium target capacity is 52,888, out of which 46,848 are open for general admission (GA) including the away supporters section, distributed along two concourses serving a lower tier and an upper tier. General Admission (GA) seats occupy mostly the north, east and south stands, with the west stand and a portion of the lower tier on the east stand, reserved for hospitality.
The away section is placed on the northeast corner of the bowl, away from the home stand and hospitality home supporters, and in direct view of the stadium event security programme. Their location was also determined by its close proximity to the site access and egress through Regent Road, to assist with segregated egress and proximity to away fan coach parking. At ground level, access to the lower tier is through three main GA access ways on the east stand level with the site, to then distribute from there internally along the concourse to the north and south stands.
7.8.6 Players Facilities These are hosted in the ground floor of the west stand where the Club requested the provision of two main team changing rooms, but also two smaller auxiliary changing rooms to be able to host events and other competitions/friendly matches with mulitple teams. Wembley was noted as a good example to follow, and a similar layout with inter connecting changing rooms has been proposed.
7.8.4 Hospitality The hospitality offer target capacity is 52,888, out of which under 5,800 are dedicated to hospitality patrons on different degrees of offer and distributed through several levels on both the east and west stand. As a general strategy the hospitality offer will associate the best seats with the best hospitality facilities, and easy circulation between seats and associated hospitality will be provided.
The west stand is contains the majority of the hospitality offer through it’s four levels, including a Tunnel Club at level 00, dedicated to those who want to experience some of the match day experience next to the players tunnel and media flash interview area. The main Director’s Box, flanked by Sponsor Boxes, are included on level 02. At this level and also on the level 03 above, views into the river will allow for the development of River view dining areas. Loge Seating is included at the top of the lower tier as a direct reference to the current Executive Boxes at Goodison Park which are low in the stand and offer a proximity to the pitch.
The east stand includes a main lounge at level 01 and a row of boxes at level 02. The lounge is intended to be themed to include the history of the Club, providing also a focal point in the non-match day stadium tours. Access to each of the hospitality areas is distinct to the GA access, with it’s own provision of lifts and stairs. Escalators are also provided for hospitality patrons only on the west stand.
7.8.3 General Admission The Stadium target capacity is 52,888, out of which 46,848 are open for general admission (GA) including the away supporters section, distributed along two concourses serving a lower tier and an upper tier. General Admission (GA) seats occupy mostly the north, east and south stands, with the west stand and a portion of the lower tier on the east stand, reserved for hospitality.
The away section is placed on the northeast corner of the bowl, away from the home stand and hospitality home supporters, and in direct view of the stadium event security programme. Their location was also determined by its close proximity to the site access and egress through Regent Road, to assist with segregated egress and proximity to away fan coach parking. At ground level, access to the lower tier is through three main GA access ways on the east stand level with the site, to then distribute from there internally along the concourse to the north and south stands.
7.8.6 Players Facilities These are hosted in the ground floor of the west stand where the Club requested the provision of two main team changing rooms, but also two smaller auxiliary changing rooms to be able to host events and other competitions/friendly matches with mulitple teams. Wembley was noted as a good example to follow, and a similar layout with inter connecting changing rooms has been proposed.
7.8.4 Hospitality The hospitality offer target capacity is 52,888, out of which under 5,800 are dedicated to hospitality patrons on different degrees of offer and distributed through several levels on both the east and west stand. As a general strategy the hospitality offer will associate the best seats with the best hospitality facilities, and easy circulation between seats and associated hospitality will be provided.
The west stand is contains the majority of the hospitality offer through it’s four levels, including a Tunnel Club at level 00, dedicated to those who want to experience some of the match day experience next to the players tunnel and media flash interview area. The main Director’s Box, flanked by Sponsor Boxes, are included on level 02. At this level and also on the level 03 above, views into the river will allow for the development of River view dining areas. Loge Seating is included at the top of the lower tier as a direct reference to the current Executive Boxes at Goodison Park which are low in the stand and offer a proximity to the pitch.
The east stand includes a main lounge at level 01 and a row of boxes at level 02. The lounge is intended to be themed to include the history of the Club, providing also a focal point in the non-match day stadium tours. Access to each of the hospitality areas is distinct to the GA access, with it’s own provision of lifts and stairs. Escalators are also provided for hospitality patrons only on the west stand.
MickA
Player Valuation: £10m
I forget where but seen a few times the pitch and ground level is c7m above the water level after inputs from the environment agency. I'd still like to know why we're not using the space underneath, must be a technical reason.