New Everton Stadium



Tom Hughes said:
There will almost certainly be a covered car park on the west stand with the same access route as would've been required for a larger one regardless most people parking inside stadia are usually required to wait a minimum for 1 hr afterwards before leaving. Most of those are enjoying lounge hospitality packages, so that isn't an issue.

I've worked on several car ferries and car carriers which is why I mentioned them. Usually the ventilation of entire car decks can be readily achieved by just a few supply/extraction fans that can comfortably remove toxic gases (not all have bow and stern doors), but similar natural ventilation could be readily achieved at a stadium as is the case at the proposed Feyenoord stadium for instance that has car parking under the stands while also on a waterfront with some land reclamation and limited access. Whether it is "better for it" or not will depend on whether a few thousand high-paying corporates are accommodated effectively or not, but the fact that so many stadia have them shows that ventilation is not a great concern.
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Jacko93 said:
Ventilation of an area at ground level, under a stand, is very different to ventilation of an area underground enclosed on all 4 sides with only a small extraction area in comparison to circulation space.

Not that any of this actually matters of course.

We'll just agree to disagree.
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From the images I've seen, and from from Dan Meis said in his talk, the Dock itself was strangely only as wide as the pitch, so any hopes of building tiers below ground would surely involve damaging the wall. Similarly, while the stands are on top of ground level, any access to a below ground car park would either have to start above Dock wall level, or again, damage the existing structure. If the car park was built below the pitch, would the pitch therefore, not only have to be ground level at best as it would be now, but raised above ground level to allow access? Which would surely defeat the purpose of using the space below.

The main thing is the car park is not the original multistory structure on the actual bank, blocking the view from the ground and the view of the ground from the river. That would've been awful yet somehow very Everton.
 
Kever10 said:
From the images I've seen, and from from Dan Meis said in his talk, the Dock itself was strangely only as wide as the pitch, so any hopes of building tiers below ground would surely involve damaging the wall. Similarly, while the stands are on top of ground level, any access to a below ground car park would either have to start above Dock wall level, or again, damage the existing structure. If the car park was built below the pitch, would the pitch therefore, not only have to be ground level at best as it would be now, but raised above ground level to allow access? Which would surely defeat the purpose of using the space below.

The main thing is the car park is not the original multistory structure on the actual bank, blocking the view from the ground and the view of the ground from the river. That would've been awful yet somehow very Everton.
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In the North-South config it is too tight to lower the pitch much, but in the original East-west one it would be ideal with the lower tier sitting in a cofferdamed space to protect against flooding. Which when there was some onus on planning height restrictions and construction costs might have been a good opportunity.

As regards roads accessing an underground carpark if there was to be one, these could be ramped down one level quite easily without needing to raise pitch level or damage the quayside at all.

The original multistorey car park probably disappeared on cost grounds tbh, and its omission was a post Meis ammendment I think, and not that dissimilar an elevation to the revised version (without the steps). Having spent a lot of time on our waterfront, and many others besides, I think it could've offered some much needed shelter at the exposed end of the site. The view on a warm day might have been ok (not sure the wirral waterfront is that exciting tbh), but how many of those are there for most of the football season?
 
Not sure how many cars you would get in with all the car access and fire escapes needed for underground parking - is it worth the cost for the number of cars they would get in?
 

No Change yet.....

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GwladysBlue said:
I wonder if they’ll have to review the results of the consultation first prior to granting the license?

Can’t see there being many objections, tbh.

Hopefully we hear something later on.
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There is a letter from UU on there and a few of the comments from other agencies are interesting.... Historic England having their say...
 

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