New Everton Stadium

[roydo]

Maybe he knows that other plans are developing rapidly but cant talk about it more specifically

After these last few months it is obvious to me that a lot of stuff is done way away from prying eyes, and ears.

Which in these days of instant everything and leaks, and tweets, is quite impressive.

I hope.

 

[TheFinnFan]

What is Brownfield site?

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Peel aren't looking for rental costs, they are selling the land for people to build on at their own cost so long as it fits within their vision. Peel will not have a lasting ownership of Liverpool Waters. They will be making money on the increasing value of land as the project continues. If they feel a stadium will increase land value and increase investment interest, and it can pass numerous other obstacles, then they'll be open to listening to proposals. There was in fact a stadium included in the VERY early masterplanning process of Liverpool Waters.

I did say that they won't entertain the idea of a stadium. That's because they want more Beetham style towers there AFAIK. However, the only way I could see them relenting is by agreeing to rent the land. Wasn't it Peel said no to a stadium originally? I'm sure there was some linked issue about Clarence Dock a few years back.

Anyways, the Collins Fields would eliminate any involvement with Peel holdings, and any stadium built there would be visible from the waterfront.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

What is Brownfield site?

Where buildings once stood but have been demolished.

 

[roydo]

What is Brownfield site?

It refers to any patch of urban land that could be built on.

Opposite of Greenfield site, which is actually fields.

 

[PhilM]

Would there not be huge planning issues with limited access to this site? Great location but access is severely limited.

I say this because one if the issues with Arsenal building the Emirates was the limited access - something which led to the capacity being capped at 60,000. Moshiri will be very familiar with this issue of course.

The land mentioned is already part of the Liverpool Waters project where planning permission has been accepted and building is to start soon.

Hence, there is little to no chance that Peel Holdings would be happy to amend such plans to involve a new football stadium in the project.

That's before all the logistics side of it.

No idea Esk but hey ho why not a build a new small ferry docking station to bring em in by boat and an underground train station under the stadium.

A new underground station would probably cost not much less than a new stadium of a low to decent calibre.

 

[TheFinnFan]

It refers to any patch of urban land that could be built on.

Opposite of Greenfield site, which is actually fields.

Ok thanks

 

[magicjuan]

Peel aren't looking for rental costs, they are selling the land for people to build on at their own cost so long as it fits within their vision. Peel will not have a lasting ownership of Liverpool Waters. They will be making money on the increasing value of land as the project continues. If they feel a stadium will increase land value and increase investment interest, and it can pass numerous other obstacles, then they'll be open to listening to proposals. There was in fact a stadium included in the VERY early masterplanning process of Liverpool Waters.

true dat, saw the original prints

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Ok thanks

*AHEM*

You're welcome

 

[Magus]

It refers to any patch of urban land that could be built on.

Opposite of Greenfield site, which is actually fields.

Technically a brownfield site is previously developed land, whereas a greenfield site is land that has never been developed or has been left unused for so long it has returned to a natural state.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Maybe some are a bit too hasty of condemning possible site wich arent in the immediate proximaty of city centre or waterfront. Places wich have more space give bigger possibilities of developing surrounding infra? Does that make any sense?

 

[roydo]

Technically a brownfield site is previously developed land, whereas a greenfield site is land that has never been developed or has been left unused for so long it has returned to a natural state.

That the case? Thought it was urban v rural. But you make more sense.

 

[Ratkiller]

Waterfront or redevelop Goodison for me. Tin pot stadium by a motorway or stuck in a park will not put us back on the ascendency. If we could claim a waterfront spot we could leave Liverpool to waste in the park whilst every photo of the Liverpool waterfront had our crest on it, every cruise tourist would go on a stadium tour, every day tripper would see the stadium, every corporate event would want to be hosted there. Huge opportunity to put Liverpool in our shadow long term.

Agreed. I can see their being a lot of opposition to stonebridge if it's announced as an option.

It's an out of town development on a retail park. A retail park that was supposed to be built before tesco pulled the plug and decided to go with Kirkby. And then amazon were supposedly moving there before also pulling the plug.

It's a piece of land the council can't seem do anything with. They can keep it as far as I'm concerned.

 

[everton2004]

My preferred choice would be to redevelop Goodison. A waterfront location would be nice but looking at the potential sites - these are outside the city centre (so access wouldn't be great).

 

[TrixyStevens]

I'm sure Moshi and his team will have the best surveyors pick the right area to build (close to city centre, close to popular tourist sites etc.)
Liverpool city council and the powers that be will never let it happen though